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Old 07-24-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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HOW IS IT BASHING BLACK WOMEN, TO SUGGEST THAT THEY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OF THEIR OWN BODIES; PERHAPS USE BIRTH CONTROL? TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS?
IF A WHITE WOMAN HAS SEVERAL CHILDREN WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT MEN, SHE'S CONSIDERED, BY HER RACE, TO BE A ****. A BLACK WOMAN DOES THE SAME AND SHE SOMEHOW DESERVES "ASSISTANCE" FROM THE SOCIETY THAT CAUSED THIS INJUSTICE? SHE CAN THEN DO IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SOMEONE HAS TO BREAK THE SAUSAGE FACTORY EFFECT AND UNLESS THESE WOMEN ARE BEING RAPED, IT SHOULDN'T/ISN'T GOING TO BE, SOCIETY AS A WHOLE
Motherhood is noble in any form...a child is a blessing to the world..To hate a woman who has a child and to then hate the child is a sin... Single or paired...mothers are to be respected and protected- There is no such thing as a single parent..it took two to generate the child- a father exists some where...instead of yelling insults and demanding payments- be sweet and kind to the man- He is the father of the child...don't make what is a blessing a curse...and remember when you look at that child- half is you and half is him- To hate the father is to hate the child.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:37 PM
 
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This is going to sound terrible, but I have no problem with the concept of requiring single mothers to use birth control while they're on the dole.
It doesn't sound terrible to me. If they are collecting from the gov in return the gov should be able to control their lives to a certain extent for everyone's best interests.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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This is going to sound terrible, but I have no problem with the concept of requiring single mothers to use birth control while they're on the dole.
How does that sound terrible? Sounds sensible to me. Would save a lot of money and a lot of unwanted, uncared for children out there (of all colours).
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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Motherhood is noble in any form...a child is a blessing to the world..To hate a woman who has a child and to then hate the child is a sin... Single or paired...mothers are to be respected and protected- There is no such thing as a single parent..it took two to generate the child- a father exists some where...instead of yelling insults and demanding payments- be sweet and kind to the man- He is the father of the child...don't make what is a blessing a curse...and remember when you look at that child- half is you and half is him- To hate the father is to hate the child.

There are plenty of mothers out there, of all races, who are not in the least bit noble and they by no means consider motherhood a blessing. They continue to have child after child even though they are ill equiped to raise even one. You're right, it takes two, but considering it is the womans body that houses the growth of the baby for nine/ten months, shouldn't they take the ultimate responsibility of their birth control; At the very least stop making the identical mistake three four or five times??!!
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Why isn't anyone taking up the issue of the Dads deserting their children. It is like men are inculpable in this epidemic. It is somehow always the mother's fault when dad acts like a loser, abandons his kids and doesn't pay child support.

And the single mom problem, isn't a "black problem." It is mostly an economic problem, as NYT illustrates.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/us...d-by-i-do.html

And the Atlantic:
America's Silent Crisis: The Plight of the Single (Working!) Mother - Gayle Tzemach Lemmon - The Atlantic

And Slate:
Single mothers: They aren't married, but not for lack of trying.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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Gotcha. I would say that their fascination with black people is flattering, but at this point, it's just creepy. Yes, we get it, black people are the sh*t, now move on with your day.

Just the black women that have child after child to get more $$$$$. What's creepy is that they can't see past their scapegoat and take a look at their own behaviour...
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:57 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Just the black women that have child after child to get more $$$$$. What's creepy is that they can't see past their scapegoat and take a look at their own behaviour...

Seriously?

By the way, Nadya Suleman (White woman collecting welfare after having a total of 14 kids out of wedlock) says "Hello"

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Old 07-24-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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Why isn't anyone taking up the issue of the Dads deserting their children. It is like men are inculpable in this epidemic. It is somehow always the mother's fault when dad acts like a loser, abandons his kids and doesn't pay child support.

And the single mom problem, isn't a "black problem." It is mostly an economic problem, as NYT illustrates.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/us...d-by-i-do.html

And the Atlantic:
America's Silent Crisis: The Plight of the Single (Working!) Mother - Gayle Tzemach Lemmon - The Atlantic

And Slate:
Single mothers: They aren't married, but not for lack of trying.
I would say it is mostly the mothers fault because they are the gatekeepers of sex. They choose which men will get them pregnant. They often make very poor choices.

This is not to excuse deadbeat dads. They should be sterilized as well (or even castrated if they get multiple women pregnant and doon't pay up).

One problem is that women don't want to harshly punish deadbeat dads. I read of a man who got 12 different women pregnant and wasnt paying child support. All of the men on the jury said he should be forced to get a vasectomy. NONE of the women on the jury thought he should (they probably fell in love with him or thought he was "hot"). The women were the majority and they got their way. I wouldn't be surprised if he is out there getting yet more women pregnant while the good family oriented men are getting rejected by these very same women who choose the baby daddy (who happens to be white IIRC).
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:09 PM
 
Location: where people are either too stupid to leave or too stuck to move
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why do you care??
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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If the "vast" majority of black women are single mothers then why would the majority band together to protest against themselves?

Just a question of logic.
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