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I'm a special case, where I also realise most of my socialist ideals don't fit into America.
However, higher standards for education, at least I thought, should be something that everyone should strive for.
I agree, but those who control education generally DON'T want that (See blue state Illinois, as an example). Hence the creeping adoption of IB in place of AP, a program less rigorous than AP.
I went to an inner city school that had both IB and AP. The difference I found that the IB kids were more dedicated and motivated to learning (rather than regurgitating facts) than the AP kids. The IB kids (like me) wanted to learn for the sake of learning, not just because we had to go to school. I have no idea why people are against IB. It's rather silly to be against it.
Many schools don't have the resources to adopt both. The problem has been when a school/district chooses IB, and AP is therefore not available. IB is less rigorous than AP and much more limited. Both parents AND students are unhappy with IB's limitations in those circumstances.
...my "agenda" is to raise national awareness of a very costly, controversial and divisive issue that is affecting our children, our taxes and our national sovereignty.....
Most Americans realize the current President has a love affair with the UN and considers the UN's opinion more important than our Constitution. Getting rid of Obama will not stop the enormous global control of our pocketbooks and children's futures if Romney/Ryan continue with the misguided "good faith" deal Bush made with criminals and people who hate America.
So please, ask me anything you like, but a warning in advance. I will not tolerate any name-calling. Please let's all be adults.
I believe you are the person that may be misguided. Who are you to assume that your readers are not adults? IMO you have not stated any specific reasons I could discern (through two readings of your post) exactly why there is a problem, other than your own personal bias.
I don't see how bringing the US to a global level of education is a bad thing, and I actually support cooperation with the UN. I fail to see how educating our children to a global standard removes our sovereignty, or why others are "crooks" from your post.
Further, I believe it IS time that the US stop thinking of itself as greater than any other sovereign nation -- and would actually prefer that we extricate ourselves from other nations, other than cooperating in promoting their independence from outside exploitation (including ours). It often seems as though WE are the quintessential "bully on the block" inserting ourselves where we should have no involvement.
As for President Obama, he has my full support. He is the only well-informed, professional statesman we've had in office since -- well, looking back over our presidential history... he could be a first!
I agree, but those who control education generally DON'T want that (See blue state Illinois, as an example). Hence the creeping adoption of IB in place of AP, a program less rigorous than AP.
Exactly, and isn't that what this is all about? Control of our American public schools by socialist Chicago thugs like Arne Duncan and Rahm Emanuel?
1. Using the IB for Systemic Reform in North America
ARNE DUNCAN, DENNIS COCHRANE
Arne Duncan, Superintendent of Chicago Public Schools, and
Dennis Cochrane, Deputy Minister of Education for the
Province of Nova Scotia, will expand on their panel discussion
of the introduction of the IB throughout each of their school
districts.
Pure politics. American public schools should be APOLITICAL!
I agree, but those who control education generally DON'T want that (See blue state Illinois, as an example). Hence the creeping adoption of IB in place of AP, a program less rigorous than AP.
How many times do you have to be told this: AP is NOT a program - it's a series of exams designed to test knowledge and college level proficiency that anyone, including IB students, can take. It's nonsensical to compare the rigors of the IB program to the rigors of the (nonexistent) "AP program" in the way you are.
Yes. That is exactly what you and many others have posted. If an IB student wants any more than a limited amount of college credit, OR wants a college-level challenge, they MUST take AP classes/exams IN ADDITION TO their IB program.
IB IS self-limiting, by design. I posted the IB website explanation that an IB Diploma student takes ONLYTHREE HL classes/exams.
I believe you are the person that may be misguided. Who are you to assume that your readers are not adults? IMO you have not stated any specific reasons I could discern (through two readings of your post) exactly why there is a problem, other than your own personal bias.
I don't see how bringing the US to a global level of education is a bad thing, and I actually support cooperation with the UN. I fail to see how educating our children to a global standard removes our sovereignty, or why others are "crooks" from your post.
Further, I believe it IS time that the US stop thinking of itself as greater than any other sovereign nation -- and would actually prefer that we extricate ourselves from other nations, other than cooperating in promoting their independence from outside exploitation (including ours). It often seems as though WE are the quintessential "bully on the block" inserting ourselves where we should have no involvement.
As for President Obama, he has my full support. He is the only well-informed, professional statesman we've had in office since -- well, looking back over our presidential history... he could be a first!
Well alrighty then .......... LOL! Let's have a public burning of the Constitution and replace it with the UDHR! Yeah blue helmets! Yeah Chavez and Achmadinijad! Who cares about our inalienable rights?
This is one strange thread IMO. I have to say its one of the odder crusades I've ever seen on here, and that's saying something.
Anyway, I have worked in Higher Ed for years and I have never heard anyone claim that IB was inferior to AP. They are both held in high regard and are seen as 1. the same in quality or 2. IB as better. This is the first I am hearing otherwise.
The only complaint I have ever heard about IB in the admissions community was that it is not as flexible as AP. You can't pick and choose which subject you want to take, you have to do the whole thing. But that's about it. If an app from an IB student comes in, folks assume the kid is smart.
Such strangeness is getting more an more common these days. You never know what is going to be labeled as a "threat" to "American Values" anymore.
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