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Old 09-19-2012, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And your point is?????
No point. But if they can have family dances then why not father daughter dances ?
In that case those fatherless girls have something else to attend.

Where's the tolerance here for different lifestyles ? There are some in society today that still believe in the nuclear family..you know Mom, Dad and the kids. Why should they be punished ?
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:26 AM
 
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No point. But if they can have family dances then why not father daughter dances ?
In that case those fatherless girls have something else to attend.

Where's the tolerance here for different lifestyles ? There are some in society today that still believe in the nuclear family..you know Mom, Dad and the kids. Why should they be punished ?
So you think that schools should sponsor events, and then not allow some of the students to attend?

Because that's what happened in Cranston.

The school sponsored a father-daughter dance. A girl without a father wasn't allowed to attend. Her single mom complained, and the ACLU took her side.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So you think that schools should sponsor events, and then not allow some of the students to attend?

Because that's what happened in Cranston.

The school sponsored a father-daughter dance. A girl without a father wasn't allowed to attend. Her single mom complained, and the ACLU took her side.
You just posted that they have family dances. That girl and her mom could have went to that one.
Does everyone in America have to be pacified with their hurt feelings ?
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:32 AM
 
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You just posted that they have family dances. That girl and her mom could have went to that one.
Does everyone in America have to be pacified with their hurt feelings ?
NOW they have family dances.

AFTER the girl's mother complained.

And it has nothing to do with hurt feelings.

The school sponsored an event where students were excluded because they didn't have active fathers involved in their lives. It's bad enough that these young girls don't have fathers. The school shouldn't punish them for that. And excluding them from the dances was punishment.

And, dear, excluding them is an act of intolerance.

Creating family dances where no one is excluded is an act of tolerance.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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NOW they have family dances.

AFTER the girl's mother complained.

And it has nothing to do with hurt feelings.

The school sponsored an event where students were excluded because they didn't have active fathers involved in their lives. It's bad enough that these young girls don't have fathers. The school shouldn't punish them for that. And excluding them from the dances was punishment.

And, dear, excluding them is an act of intolerance.

Creating family dances where no one is excluded is an act of tolerance.
I disagree and will leave it at that.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: The Other California
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NOW they have family dances.

AFTER the girl's mother complained.

And it has nothing to do with hurt feelings.

The school sponsored an event where students were excluded because they didn't have active fathers involved in their lives. It's bad enough that these young girls don't have fathers. The school shouldn't punish them for that. And excluding them from the dances was punishment.

And, dear, excluding them is an act of intolerance.

Creating family dances where no one is excluded is an act of tolerance.
"Exclusion" from anything is now punishment and intolerance? As a man under 55, I am excluded from senior discounts at the local diner. Am I being punished? Do I need a lawyer?
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Nice resolution. I always felt horrible for the girls whose fathers had passed away or weren't in their lives.
The problem is that single motherhood and lesbian partnerships are becoming the norm.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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As a man under 55, I am excluded from senior discounts at the local diner. Am I being punished? Do I need a lawyer?
Senior discounts are a matter of price, not age, discrimination.

As long as the owner of your local choke and puke abides by federal civil rights laws (meaning she doesn't restrict by race, religion, etc.) she can give ol' Herbie with the walker 20% off the Blue Plate Special.

The whole "punished" angle belongs on the Mental Health board.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Senior discounts are a matter of price, not age, discrimination.

As long as the owner of your local choke and puke abides by federal civil rights laws (meaning she doesn't restrict by race, religion, etc.) she can give ol' Herbie with the walker 20% off the Blue Plate Special.

The whole "punished" angle belongs on the Mental Health board.
That is not equal access. However, it is private, much like bars not charging women a cover charge to get them in the door.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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"Exclusion" from anything is now punishment and intolerance? As a man under 55, I am excluded from senior discounts at the local diner. Am I being punished? Do I need a lawyer?
Do get a lawyer. Perhaps he will be able to explain to you why excluding a child from a public school-sponsored event might be perceived as punishment by the child. Evidently you don't have the empathy to understand things from a child's point of view. Perhaps you have the empathy to understand things from a taxpayer's point of view. The single mother who is helping to pay for that school system can certainly be angry when the school she is supporting through taxes holds and pays for events and then excludes her daughter from participating in the event.

It's a little different than senior discounts that are offered by private companies, and which you can take advantage of when you become a senior.

That little girl is a student at the school. And she is a daughter. And she is not at fault for anything. So why should she be excluded from school events?
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