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All this does is punish the Fathers who are actually involved with their Daughters.
Indeed. I've never been to a father-daughter dance, but as a father I find the idea inspiring and it reminds me of the devotion I owe to my daughters.
I have a son in Boy Scouts. When the boys go up for their rank advancements at the Court of Honor, they are told to escort their mothers who participate in the ceremony. It's a beautiful tribute to the unique relationship of mothers and sons. I love seeing the proud blushes of the moms at these events.
Now then, I've seen boys whose mothers weren't present go up with their fathers or other relatives on rare occasions. But I've never heard a complaint. You make do with what you've got and are happy for the rest.
It is a ridiculous proposal. Using a ridiculous and extreme comment to make a point is quite common though. The whole point of these dances are to emphasize and nurture the relationship. Here is another ridiculous proposal: Ban youth sporting events because not everyone is athletic enough to be on a team. How about we ban bringing a date to the prom because not everyone has a date? All ridiculous, but not anymore ridiculous than what you think is ok with stopping the Father-Daughter dance.
And if these dances now allow little girls who don't have fathers to be accompanied by different relatives, it damages the relationship between the little girls who do have fathers? How so?
You make do with what you've got and are happy for the rest.
Which would have worked had the school let the girl bring somebody else in her unpresent-father's place or attend solo.
But the school didn't.
So now, anybody can go.
If your son's Boy Scouts acted like the school, boys without moms present would be told that they could not participate in the ceremony. Not that they could go solo. Not that they could go with someone else. They would simply not be allowed to participate.
See the difference or is it still too difficult to understand?
Why does the public school have to promote father/daughter bonding?? I thought this is the type of "social engineering" that your side believes should take place in the home.
Actually, real conservatives are in favor of social engineering. You can't get rid of it anyway, it's just a matter of who's in charge.
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And if these dances now allow little girls who don't have fathers to be accompanied by different relatives, it damages the relationship between the little girls who do have fathers? How so?
It doesn't damage the relationship other than it takes away from the special attention it would have otherwise had. It is a decision to not emphasize and encourage something that society has had a problem with. It is sad when a daughter has no father (for whatever reason), but it is equally sad that special attention to the problem of fathers not being involved with their kids has been suspended. Now, it's just a dance.
Indeed. I've never been to a father-daughter dance, but as a father I find that idea is inspiring and reminds me of the devotion I owe to my daughters.
I have a son in Boy Scouts. When the boys go up for their rank advancements at the Court of Honor, they are told to escort their mothers who participate in the ceremony. It's a beautiful tribute to the unique relationship of mothers and sons. I love seeing the proud blushes of the moms at these events.
Now then, I've seen boys whose mothers weren't present go up with their fathers or other relatives on rare occasions. But I've never heard a complaint. You make do with what you've got and are happy for the rest.
Why would you hear a complaint, if the boys get to attend with other relatives? And the Boy Scouts are a PRIVATE organization. PRIVATE organizations can set their own rules.
The public schools were holding an event which only permitted little girls who had fathers to attend. They prevented little girls who didn't have fathers from attending. A dance is a special event, a kind of reward. Schools have prohibited students with behavioral problems from attending dances. Schools have prohibited students with failing grades from attending dances. The dance is a reward. Refusing to let students attend the dance is a punishment. Telling little girls who don't have fathers they can't attend a school dance is telling them they aren't good enough. I know you like that message, but most of us think it's mean and cold-hearted to tell little girls that through no fault of their own, they are inferior to other little girls. Of course, they're just girls, and while you speak about your love for your daughters, your love comes with lots of conditions. Like girls need to know their places, they need to know they are inferior to men, they need to know all the things they can't do. Because the only acceptable roles for them are as wives and mothers, to be used by the men in their lives. If they accept that, then you'll love them. Otherwise, pffft----
Which would have worked had the school let the girl bring somebody else in her unpresent-father's place or attend solo.
But the school didn't.
So now, anybody can go.
If your son's Boy Scouts acted like the school, boys without moms present would be told that they could not participate in the ceremony. Not that they could go solo. Not that they could go with someone else. They would simply not be allowed to participate.
It's not a perfect analogy. I would have preferred the school allow the girl to bring a father stand-in to the dance (but not attend solo). But if the school chooses not to, so be it, it's small potatoes and life goes on. Not having the perfect set of rules for the dances is no excuse for banning them altogether.
Maybe you should get in touch with Sutherland School and ask them if they ban motherless little girls from the mother-daughter teas?
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