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Old 09-19-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The market is deciding on natural gas because of burdemsome and in the case of the CO2 proposals unattainable regulations.
Nonsense. The market is deciding on natural gas because fracking has sent its price through the floor.

End of story.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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Nonsense. The market is deciding on natural gas because fracking has sent its price through the floor.

End of story.

Bravo. I don't know why it's so hard for conservatives to accept what the market is telling us.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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Not entirely true. The PRIMARY reason natural gas is so cheap is because of new technology.
Yes and soon the EPA will be going after fracking. Well actually the are already.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You think it's cheaper to CONVERT a coal plant to use natural gas? You really don't have a clue do you?

The OWNER stated what the reasons was.

Do YOU know better than he does?
Probably. He may be lying out his wazoo to try to get Thurston elected.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:48 PM
 
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Yes and soon the EPA will be going after fracking. Well actually the are already.
Well then. In that case, If all the wing-nuts here are right then the EPA will destroy the natural gas industry; and everyone will go back to coal.

So what's the problem?
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:52 PM
 
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No they won't go back to coal. That is the problem. You can't see all this nonsense is to push everyone to wind and solar which is not sustainable in a country of this size and the subsidies that are required to keep them running. Hell I just saw a story where chinese solar panels were just purchased to put on a federal building in Illiniois or wherever it was. What happened to all those solar companies in the US that the stimulus funded?
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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Not entirely true. The PRIMARY reason natural gas is so cheap is because of new technology.
This new tech has caused a boom and a subsequent glut of product on the market. This last Spring they started scaling back that expansion because they aren't making enough money. In the future you will have a lot more demand on this supply whether it's power plants, manufacturing, housing or even cars.

I'm not against NG but to expect these prices to remain low is a pipe dream.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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No they won't go back to coal. That is the problem. You can't see all this nonsense is to push everyone to wind and solar which is not sustainable in a country of this size and the subsidies that are required to keep them running. Hell I just saw a story where chinese solar panels were just purchased to put on a federal building in Illiniois or wherever it was. What happened to all those solar companies in the US that the stimulus funded?

That's the conspiracy that the radical right always bring up. Obama is taking guns away. Obama is implementing jihad. Obama is pushing everyone to wind and solar. Oh Please.

As powerful as the POTUS is, he can't dictate the market. Sorry. The market dictates the market.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:00 PM
 
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This new tech has caused a boom and a subsequent glut of product on the market. This last Spring they started scaling back that expansion because they aren't making enough money. In the future you will have a lot more demand on this supply whether it's power plants, manufacturing, housing or even cars.

I'm not against NG but to expect these prices to remain low is a pipe dream.

And no one here is even remotely inferring the natural gas price is sustainable.

The market will decide what happens next. Not the president. Y'all should be cognizant of that.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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That's the conspiracy that the radical right always bring up. Obama is taking guns away. Obama is implementing jihad. Obama is pushing everyone to wind and solar. Oh Please.

As powerful as the POTUS is, he can't dictate the market. Sorry. The market dictates the market.
How is this a conspiracy? Are you blind.

What do guns and jihads have to do with this? Oh nothing.
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