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Old 09-24-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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Toronto’s Smallest House is Up for Sale!

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This house, located near the intersection of Dufferin Street and Rogers Road is believed to be Toronto’s smallest house. Occupying what used to be a driveway, it’s a one-bedroom, one-bathroom house that sits on a parcel of land 7.25 feet (2.2 metres) wide and 113.67 feet (34.6 metres) long and has an interior area of just under 300 square feet (under 28 square metres). The asking price is $179,900.
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Old 09-24-2012, 05:57 PM
 
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The only problem I might have with these apts is the possibility of too many people in a given area, thus overwhelming the utilities such as water and sewage.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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I would sacrifice on space if I could live in a neighborhood that would be centrally located, walkable and where I could ditch my car and ride my bicycle anywhere. To me, it would make perfect sense!

I can't help but keep bringing the example of the Netherlands. I love the bicycle culture there- everybody rides bicycles there, rich, poor, young, old- I rode a bicycle in Gouda and Rotterdam and it is so much fun- I don't understand why bicycles are not part of the culture here.

I ride my bicycle to work(15 miles everyday) and once you get used to it- there is nothing better, I save on gas, I get my workout in the morning and I feel great when I get home- most overweight people driving by me, look at me like I am an alien out of space, I don't understand it!

In countries like the Netherlands where the majority of people ride bicycles, the obesity rate is about 10%-here in the USA, it will be 75% by the year 2020- this American suburban car-centric, sedentary lifestyle does not make any logical sense
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:11 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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I can't help but keep bringing the example of the Netherlands. I love the bicycle culture there- everybody rides bicycles there, rich, poor, young, old- I rode a bicycle in Gouda and Rotterdam and it is so much fun- I don't understand why bicycles are not part of the culture here.
I know what you mean ... I lived in Amsterdam for 3 years and rode my bike every day.

Here in SF there's quite an active bike culture, and many people use bikes as their only transportation. Still nowhere near the Dutch numbers, but they're growing rapidly.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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TraperJohn, a lot of cities now have regulations about how many renters can be stuffed into one house. In San Diego they call them "mini-dorms" because they're often found in beach areas favored by college students or near universities but they easily cram in 8-10 people into a four bedroom beach front house just so they can tell people they live at the beach. The neighbors all hate it though because it means a lot more traffic, a lot more noise, and a lot more problems for their neighborhoods. I mean would you like it if one house had ten different cars plus another five friends over all the time taking up all the parking on the street?
That's kind of an elitist attitude....maybe everyone can't afford a nice place of their own.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:35 PM
 
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These are Five of the Smallest Rental Apartments in America - Renters Week 2011 - Curbed National actually there's a lot smaller ones in places like boston and nyc there's even one smaller than the one listed there's also one that's a 78 sq. feet and before people judge him he was homeless before so he's very happy
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:39 PM
 
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I would sacrifice on space if I could live in a neighborhood that would be centrally located, walkable and where I could ditch my car and ride my bicycle anywhere. To me, it would make perfect sense!

I can't help but keep bringing the example of the Netherlands. I love the bicycle culture there- everybody rides bicycles there, rich, poor, young, old- I rode a bicycle in Gouda and Rotterdam and it is so much fun- I don't understand why bicycles are not part of the culture here.

I ride my bicycle to work(15 miles everyday) and once you get used to it- there is nothing better, I save on gas, I get my workout in the morning and I feel great when I get home- most overweight people driving by me, look at me like I am an alien out of space, I don't understand it!

In countries like the Netherlands where the majority of people ride bicycles, the obesity rate is about 10%-here in the USA, it will be 75% by the year 2020- this American suburban car-centric, sedentary lifestyle does not make any logical sense
The way alot of this nation is made, if you don't have a car, you will have problems. I definitely agree that the American suburban car-centric sedentary lifestyle doesn't make sense. If a person has a car, okay. But one should not be dependent on a car as the sole mode of transportation. A car-centric society is not a society I want to live in. Unfortunately, it is a society I'm stuck it. It makes sense to people who love cars and who don't want to bike anywhere. It doesn't make sense to you and me. It hurts me because I live in an exurb of Atlanta, which is basically the poster child of urban sprawl.

Where I live, this is what bicycles are often considered:
1) toys for kids,
2) a sign that you are too poor to own a car
3) too lazy to learn how to drive

Where I live, not owning a car is often considered strange. Look how the Atlanta area is made. Mass transit is a joke basically. Alot of residents leave even some suburban counties to get away from public transportation, believing that public transportation brings crime in. There is also a racial element to this as well, which is rooted in the 1970s. MARTA was going to build stations in Cobb, Clayton, and Gwinnett counties, as well as Fulton and DeKalb. Cobb, Clayton, and Gwinnett said no. They didn't want it, fearing that Blacks from Atlanta would have easy access to the suburbs. The irony is that Clayton County today is majority Black, and the other two counties have large Black and Hispanic populations, as well as bus systems for their own counties.

The Netherlands has a more practical approach when it comes to how to have decent transportation. The attitude being "if you don't have to drive, don't drive, use a bicycle or the tram" and "be frugal and resourceful with the space that you have". In America, there is so much open space and people use it.
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Old 09-24-2012, 06:40 PM
 
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Apparently. I think there is a big aversion to living in the city.
And that is the beauty of choice. Most of America is suburban sprawl or rural, so it isn't like there aren't options for people who want more space. That is what I really don't get about some of these posters. They have all the choices in the world when it comes to suburban/rural living....so why do they have to be so hostile to the relative few who want to live in densely populated cities? It seems like a win/win to me.

If you don't like living in densely populated cities, don't live in one. This is not Europe. There are plenty of alternatives for those who like suburban/rural living.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:12 PM
 
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The only problem I might have with these apts is the possibility of too many people in a given area, thus overwhelming the utilities such as water and sewage.


"Too Many People" By Paul McCartney - YouTube
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:27 PM
 
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Relevance to this discussion? None whatsoever.

Chance that you'll ever have to give up your 5BR mini-mansion on its half-acre that's 10 miles from the nearest store? Also none whatsoever, unless you get foreclosed on.

Small Change got foreclosed on?
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