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Old 10-04-2012, 07:40 AM
 
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Ok, we all know that there are biased media sources out there and there is certainly room for reasonable criticism.

However, the constant claims (especially from the right) that the media is left wing (except fox)...let me share with you what greeted me on my computer this morning.

CNN:

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By most accounts, Republican challenger Mitt Romney was the clear winner of Wednesday's first debate with President Barack Obama. Romney engaged the incumbent while Obama looked down at his lectern. The challenger was a more forceful debater while Obama appeared less than engaged.
5 things we learned from the presidential debate - CNN.com

OH and here is one of those "biased media polls" you guys have been whining about for weeks...

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According to a CNN/ORC International poll conducted right after the session, 67% of debate watchers questioned said that Romney won
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:48 AM
 
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Ok, we all know that there are biased media sources out there and there is certainly room for reasonable criticism.

However, the constant claims (especially from the right) that the media is left wing (except fox)...let me share with you what greeted me on my computer this morning.

CNN:



5 things we learned from the presidential debate - CNN.com

OH and here is one of those "biased media polls" you guys have been whining about for weeks...



I have said for a while that CNN is trying to kiss tea party a$$. They are wrong. That fox crowd is not the future(thank God).
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:54 AM
 
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It's a matter of pragmatism. If CNN said Obama did a great job they knew they'd be ridiculed.

This doesn't change the indisputable fact that the media is mainly comprised of progressive activists who are willing to lie to advance their agenda; very few are legitimate journalists.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:58 AM
 
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Good point. If Obama had won, they'd be complaining that it was biased,etc.

I only heard 5 minutes of it. It was clear that Romney was the aggressor and Obama was fumbling. Not sure why. I don't like that, but it is just the truth. It is also true that Romney has not been able to go a week without looking like an ass through the whole summer.

The media just did its job, and seemed to play it pretty straight. Romney was particularly compelling, and Obama notably off. That seems the objective reality. I wonder when all this media spin supposedly kicks in?
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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It's kind of hard to deny the obvious. Remember, we watched the debate and there are plenty of recordings of the entire debate - not just sound bites. But even the sound bites weren't so hot for Obama. In my opinion, Obama's problem in the debate was that Romney insisted that Obama answer as an incumbent, instead of pretending that he was a challanger. "You've been president for 4 years." has not been said enough when Obama talks about his plans for the next 4 years.

Honestly, by the end of the debate I just wanted it over because Obama looked bad, and he is our president, after all.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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It's a matter of pragmatism. If CNN said Obama did a great job they knew they'd be ridiculed.

This doesn't change the indisputable fact that the media is mainly comprised of progressive activists who are willing to lie to advance their agenda; very few are legitimate journalists.
The fact that never changes is that for the political extremists, they will only believe information that supports thier views. Otherwise, the source is biased.

Just look at the thread so far. People denying reality and substituting their own.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:00 AM
 
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It's a matter of pragmatism. If CNN said Obama did a great job they knew they'd be ridiculed.

This doesn't change the indisputable fact that the media is mainly comprised of progressive activists who are willing to lie to advance their agenda; very few are legitimate journalists.
Please cite just a few 'legitimate journalists'.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:05 AM
 
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People who complain about media bias are weirdos IMO. The media is trying to get viewers and they will do whatever they have to do to get viewers. Those who say the media love Obama only watch specific media channels that tell them that the media only loves Obama and they fall for what those people on those channels are saying because they are naive and gullible and do not want to see anyone else's POV.

In regards to the debates. Romney won red handed. He was very personable, which I think is what he was going after. People who have not kept up with his previous comments on the economy and healthcare and foreign policy, would probably be swayed into thinking that he is firm, yet unspecific about what he wants to do, like most politicians. But he was totally different than what he has been previously and I do think that is what he was trying to do as he and his team knew that this could give him a boost and I think that it will.

Obama didn't look like he was fumbling to me, he looked like he didn't care about what Romney was saying and looked like he wanted to roll his eyes. I also think he may have felt that people who keep up with politics would see past Romney's bull, but those who do not keep up with it will believe the bull, especially the 716 billion medicare cut that Romney kept mentioning, and which Obama did not adequately debate IMO. Obama wasn't as aggressive as he should have been, which is always his problem IMO. I think he will come out a little harder next time. Honestly, I think he doesn't want to come off as "the angry black man" but really, in his situation, he should go ahead and be that angry black man to get his point across and I think he would have done better if he had been more aggressive, in his calm way.

Romney seemed kind of agitated to me, way too animated, he seemed like he was on drugs on something IMO, but he had a great performance. Maybe the animation/agitation was just the high of the event for him. You can tell he reall did prepare a lot for last night.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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When you get knocked down by an EF5, you can't claim it's a little breeze.

Only MSNBC is that delusional.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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Obama seemed bored and unfocused. He'd better turn it around at the next debate or this race can turn around quick. And why is he not using more aggressive terminology? Romney's economic policy is trickle down...call it what it is..it's not "top down", what is that?

He also needs to tie Romney and where his millions came from to predatory capitalism and the Wall St. mindset that brought the economy down in the first place.
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