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Old 10-14-2012, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Why do liberals assume that defunding PBS would mean no more Sesame Street? SS has nothing to worry about, SS would be the last thing cut from PBS.

Big Bird Doesn't Need Our Help
Romney specifically singled out Big Bird in the first debate.

 
Old 10-14-2012, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Agreed. However, the govt. having its own network is very helpful, IMO. Some rural areas have no other service.
So rural areas only have PBS? Guess you're forgetting ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW, MyTV, and small independent TV stations. Also, rural customers can also get satellite tv if cable is t available. Using an antenna on myHDTV I got 18 channels including 3 different PBS stations.
 
Old 10-14-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Romney specifically singled out Big Bird in the first debate.
Maybe because it doesn't need federal funding
 
Old 10-14-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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Sesame Street and Big Bird make a huge profit and don't need public funding.
Being they are profitable, you will NOT really see them go away without taxpayer funding.
 
Old 10-14-2012, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Well no. How's about just teaching them numbers, the alphabet and their colors ?
It's called age appropriate, educational programming.

You want them to learn about homelessness, food challenged or gay issues at 3 years old then let parents do that.
That doesn't fit with the liberal agenda. If they can't start their brainwashing and traumatizing kids early it might not stick. They won't be happy until the children as as obsessed and bitter as they are.

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The issue of Sesame Street is quite simple: If you don't like what is being "taught" on the show, don't watch it! Nobody forces you to tune into the show just like nobody forces me to watch some Christian children's shows that pop up on my TV once in a while.
Absolutely true, and if someone doesn't like it they shouldn't be forced to support it through tax dollars. It's not like sesame street provides for the common good like fire, police, national defense and so on.

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You could probably find enought waste in the military to fund SS for a decade or two.

Do you not think a communications system is a matter of national security? Do you want to rely on FOX in the event of a security concern?
There probably isn't any single department in government that doesn't have enough waste to fun sesame street, that isn't the point. In a perfect world there wouldn't be any waste or overlap in government, that doesn't mean the money should be spent somewhere else it should be left where it belongs - in the tax payers pockets.
 
Old 10-14-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: NC
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Bigbird= Yellow belly tax sucker
 
Old 10-14-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: west mich
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Absolutely true, and if someone doesn't like it they shouldn't be forced to support it through tax dollars. It's not like sesame street provides for the common good like fire, police, national defense and so on.
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Not true. First of all, with the right-wing it's not about Sesame Street at all, it's about a bit of alternative programming on PBS which conservatives don't like. We all pay for some things we don't approve of, and you have no right to withdraw your taxes just because other citizens use something that you don't.
I know where you're coming from on this - it's about the well-known conservative "minimal government". All that means is "keeping programs I like and destroying the rest". IMO most conservatives would gladly embrace a taxpayer-paid Fox News or a PBS with right-wing content "for the good of the country".
PBS programming is for the common good as an alternative to that of the vapid and detrimental news-and-information-free mainstream corporate-controlled media.
A small part of the programming (investigative programs like Frontline and Moyers Journal) are hated by the fascist Right which desperately wants to defund them - the idea being that, once gone, no corporate sponsors will want to touch them. That's all the current uproar is about!
Conservatives must realize they are part of a society and a plutocracy is not desirable.

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Old 10-14-2012, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Good Lord..this is programming for 3 and 4 year olds.
Save your social issues for adults.

Why send kids into a tizzy thinking they are going to run out of food and be hungry ?
3 years old here..they have NO critical thinking skills or even good communication skills.
Given the opportunity and nurturing, 3–5 year olds have the capacity for genius. They can have critical thinking skills in musicianship, artistic endeavors, math and reading, and language. Many a famous performer started their later expertise at that age.

More and more kids are going into preschool and school with some other children who are homeless. Not understanding why the homeless kids have no home, no good clothes, haircuts, or seem tired from lack of nutrition, the well-off or comfortable kids begin to shun, make fun of, or outright bully them. The premise of educational shows on PBS is to not only teach tolerance and that others are different but of equal value, but WHY those differences exist.

When my kids went to school, anyone wearing the wrong brand of socks, or anyone without a certain kind of backpack, were mercilessly teased.

You cannot begin teaching kids early enough. The famous song in the musical South Pacific, which dealt with racial bias and ostracism, was "You've Got to be Carefully Taught." That is, you are taught hate and snottiness at very young age, emulating your parent and relatives. Kids learn their values somewhere, beginning at home.

You'd prefer that the inevitable television watching by young kids (many who are being babysat) is the trash and commercials on regular channels? Really? I'd hate to see what our country would be like if we didn't have the small counterbalance of public television. BTW, you may have gotten that Big Bird is just the symbol for any program on public television.
 
Old 10-14-2012, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Near a river
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Sesame Street and Big Bird make a huge profit and don't need public funding.
Being they are profitable, you will NOT really see them go away without taxpayer funding.
I think you therefore would agree that the for-profit corporations that receive billions in government welfare handouts don't need public funding, either. Funny how they seem to keep taking it, though some "protest" saying they don't need it. Why can't the gov't transfer some of that to public television programs for kids? Heaven knows we need it, and more, seeing how dumb our h.s. graduates are (and observing the drop-out rate).
 
Old 10-14-2012, 05:59 PM
 
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The US government gives NPR/PBS about 5.7% of the PBS budget. The rest of the money comes from private companies and individuals. Romney not only pointed to Big Bird but also to Jim Lehrer. The truth is that Romney hates PBS because they are the only independent left. Every other network news station is owned and operated by a major company like GE. I cannot imagine a grown man like Romney opposing a child's show that is revered by most. The real reason is much more involved than big bird.

IMO, most of what is on TV is not suitable for any child. The only exception is PBS.
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