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Old 10-14-2012, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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We can't assume that the president was told about the terror attacks or requests for increased security. Someone failed here, either the state department failed to inform the president, or he knew about all of it, and failed to take the leadership role and push for the proper changes to security.

My point has been that someone failed here.
Perhaps Congress failed in it's duty. Didn't a Congressman already admit on CNN his refusal to approve close to $300M for additional security among other requested items?
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:40 PM
 
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White House: Obama and Biden were never aware of requests for more Benghazi security


This is what I do not understand from this administration:

1) At 4:00 PM on 9/11 ambassador Stevens calls Washington DC, and the Embassy in Tripoli. Stevens informs them that loud explosions are being heard and heavily armed men are pouring onto the consulate grounds

2) At the same time, video feeds from the security surveillance cameras are streaming into Washington DC, showing the attack as it is occurring

3) A few minutes later high resolution drone video is also sent to the Embassy and Washington DC.

4) And the 0bama admin runs with a story that a protest occurred at the embassy, because of a YouTube video trailer of an unknown movie, for a month?????

So now they are blaming the entire intelligence community? The whistle blowers will not sit back and have the entire world think they are a bunch of incompetent boobs.
Obama will be out of office in a couple of months, therefore the investigation will not have the political ramifications that it otherwise would have. Had obama gained a second term, it would have been an impeachable offense for dereliction of duty.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:41 PM
 
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Political cost. Obama had just revealed that Al Qaeda was greatly diminished. How would it look, politically, if he to NOW INCREASE security because of Al Qaeda.
It would look, at least to any literate individual that al Qaeda is diminished not eliminated.

Frankly having read all of the henny penny comments on this thread and elsewhere the gist of the argument is over whether to call the attackers, armed militants, terrorist or some version of al Qaeda - not that it should matter sense most folks who get upset over these things couldn't tell the difference between shia and Shinola and whether or not the attacks were keyed to 9/11 2001 or "Rev" Jones' 9/11 2012 International Judge Muhammad Day. I might also point out that no one, especially Mitt Romney et., al., can say with the slightest knowledge if the attack was planned 6 months, 6 weeks, 6 days or 6 hours previously. Nor can anyone say with any degree of certainty what the exact motivation of circumstances of how the attacks occurred, which makes all of this more than a bit ridiculous and quite frankly irrelevant because from day one the administration made it abundantly clear that who ever perpetuated this crime would be brought to "justice," which for this administration usually comes at the tip of a hellfire missile.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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Hillary said Rice didn't speak for the State Dept when she toured all the TV stations that Sunday.
Someone needs to ask Rice who put her up to that. There's your culprit.

That should have been done immediately when all the finger pointing started.
Notice how no one is asking and no one is telling ?
I heard today from a TV host on a political show, that when they want someone from the gov't to be on their show it has to be cleared by the White House first.

The fact that Rice appeared on 5 different Sunday talk shows means to me that she had not only was cleared but, certainly briefed by the White House.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:46 PM
 
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Some may find this interesting.

Can only wonder the US is deploying marines, destroyers armed with Tomahawks, unmanned surveillance drones and more than likely will not be reopening the consulate. Sounds like boots on the ground are going to grow in number. (The Salafists are to Libya what the Taliban is to Afghanistan.)

This is an excerpt from the Libya Security Brief



Libya Security Brief | Caerus Associates

Sounds like this Pres is rallying for war or something. All this in response to a protest? Yet we couldn't afford to send in some extra troops for the anniversay of 911?

The left just doesn't understand the value of stopping things before they start. How much did 9/11/12 cost the US? And if they would have heeded the calls for more assistance there would be 4 people alive and we'd still have an embassy in Benghasi. I do wish libs would truly start looking forward because they always seem to lead from behind.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Political cost. Obama had just revealed that Al Qaeda was greatly diminished. How would it look, politically, if he to NOW INCREASE security because of Al Qaeda.

It would look like a political leader making strategic adjustments to an evolving situation which is exactly what one would expect from a Commander in Chief reacting to volatile situations throughout the World.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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And if they would have heeded the calls for more assistance there would be 4 people alive and we'd still have an embassy in Benghasi.

This a huge assumption.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:50 PM
 
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When the frack did you get your appointment to the foreign or intelligence services?
And what is YOUR intelligence experience to question his?
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:50 PM
 
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Sounds like this Pres is rallying for war or something.
Oh, puleeze compared to Romney and Ryan, Obama comes off as Gandhi.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:51 PM
 
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It would look, at least to any literate individual that al Qaeda is diminished not eliminated.

Frankly having read all of the henny penny comments on this thread and elsewhere the gist of the argument is over whether to call the attackers, armed militants, terrorist or some version of al Qaeda - not that it should matter sense most folks who get upset over these things couldn't tell the difference between shia and Shinola and whether or not the attacks were keyed to 9/11 2001 or "Rev" Jones' 9/11 2012 International Judge Muhammad Day. I might also point out that no one, especially Mitt Romney et., al., can say with the slightest knowledge if the attack was planned 6 months, 6 weeks, 6 days or 6 hours previously. Nor can anyone say with any degree of certainty what the exact motivation of circumstances of how the attacks occurred, which makes all of this more than a bit ridiculous and quite frankly irrelevant because from day one the administration made it abundantly clear that who ever perpetuated this crime would be brought to "justice," which for this administration usually comes at the tip of a hellfire missile.

In a way, I agree with you. I wonder why the administration went out of it's way to say it was a protest. I wonder if this helped feed the fire at the over twenty other uprisings.
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