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Old 02-03-2013, 08:47 AM
 
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I'm a guy who's had my nose broken a few times, I know the look.
If Zimmerman's nose was broken, it certainly was NOT life-threatening, as he was not even hospitalized for any of his "injuries." As you say, you've had your nose broken a few times and seems you're still alive. Were you hospitalized for a broken nose? Were you in a coma?

And we still don't know whether or not Zimmerman's nose was in fact broken. That is something we will hear about at the trial from the defense IF IT WERE BROKEN, assuming one can tell from x-rays whether or not a nose has been broken. Of course he could have had his nose broken long before the incident with Martin.

 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:48 AM
 
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Are you an ENT or something? Swelling can make a nose look misshapen. Noses do not break that easily. We usually advise our patients to wait until the swelling subsides a little before coming in for evaluation. Apparently the doctor he did go to couldn't tell for sure, yet you can?
The doctor reported, 'Nasal bones, closed fracture, likely broken.'

Let's face it. Whether his nose was broken, fractured, simply swollen and bleeding, does it really matter that much ?

The narrative began with gz suffered No injuries and morphed to he didn't suffer life-threatening injuries. In between, there are he could have inflicted the injuries himself; the family doctor fudged the report; so what if he had injuries, tm was acting in self-defense.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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The doctor reported, 'Nasal bones, closed fracture, likely broken.'

Let's face it. Whether his nose was broken, fractured, simply swollen and bleeding, does it really matter that much ?

The narrative began with gz suffered No injuries and morphed to he didn't suffer life-threatening injuries. In between, there are he could have inflicted the injuries himself; the family doctor fudged the report; so what if he had injuries, tm was acting in self-defense.
Got a link to that report?
 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:50 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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If Zimmerman's nose was broken, it certainly was NOT life-threatening, as he was not even hospitalized for any of his "injuries." As you say, you've had your nose broken a few times and seems you're still alive. Were you hospitalized for a broken nose? Were you in a coma?

And we still don't know whether or not Zimmerman's nose was in fact broken. That is something we will hear about at the trial from the defense IF IT WERE BROKEN, assuming one can tell from x-rays whether or not a nose has been broken. Of course he could have had his nose broken long before the incident with Martin.
I've never had someone on top of be bashing my head into the ground so I can't say what that feels like but if George Zimmerman claims that he was in fear for his life I believe him unless someone can prove otherwise.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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Got a link to that report?
Fascinating. In post 1038, you wrote --- "Apparently the doctor he did go to couldn't tell for sure, yet you can?" --- yet, you Don't have the medical report ?

To answer your question, yes, I have a link to the report.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 09:07 AM
 
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Fascinating. In post 1038, you wrote --- "Apparently the doctor he did go to couldn't tell for sure, yet you can?" --- yet, you Don't have the medical report ?

To answer your question, yes, I have a link to the report.
Nice.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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The doctor reported, 'Nasal bones, closed fracture, likely broken.'

Let's face it. Whether his nose was broken, fractured, simply swollen and bleeding, does it really matter that much ?

The narrative began with gz suffered No injuries and morphed to
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he didn't suffer life-threatening injuries
. In between, there are he could have inflicted the injuries himself; the family doctor fudged the report; so what if he had injuries, tm was acting in self-defense.
Maybe not at that point, but who knows what would have happened had TM continued to pummel Z.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 10:04 AM
 
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"Excuse me son, do you live in this development or are you visiting. Sorry to bother you, but I am the neighborhood watch person and I don't recognize you...just trying to keep the neighborhhod safe for everyone that lives here".

That is all it would have taken on Zimmerman's part to avoid this tragedy. More than likely Trayvon Martin would have explained that he was visiting his dad's girlfriend with his dad and that would have been the end of it.

I think Zimmerman actually wanted to make more drama out of an innocuous situation, not to kill Trayvon, but kind of hoping that he (Zimmerman) was actually stopping a crime. Introducing himself to Trayvon and his motive for following him just would have been too humdrum for Zimmerman in his self-deluded world of being some type of hero.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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but who knows what would have happened had TM continued to pummel Z.
Or what might have happened - or NOT happened - if Zimmerman had stayed in his truck, done what a neighborhood watch person is supposed to do (observe), and waited for the police to come and question a young black male about what he was doing with an Arizona Ice Tea and a bag of skittles in his pocket.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Or what might have happened - or NOT happened - if Zimmerman had stayed in his truck, done what a neighborhood watch person is supposed to do (observe), and waited for the police to come and question a young black male about what he was doing with an Arizona Ice Tea and a bag of skittles in his pocket.
That's irrelevant. He didn't have to stay in his car.

Following Martin doesn't excuse Martin's criminal attack on Zimmerman.

However, Martin's criminal attack on mean does excuse Zimmerman shooting the hoodlum.

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