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BTW, dunno that the GOP is that worried, so much as the extremist Neo-cons, who are damn near afraid of most everything and everyone to begin with... illegals, minorities, feminazis, edu-macated elites, lib-ruls, joos, atheists, muslims, gays, etc..
in short, they're petrified over anything different or having to do with "change"!!
This. Great post.
Rational, educated people know the country has been evolving and changing for over 200 years. The people who are secure in who they are and know just how strong this country is at its core know that. They also know how to work with change. And live with it.
There will always be the wing-nuts who start talking about revolution and secession and stockpiling and tell each other where ammo is on sale. It will always be that way. Meanwhile the heart of the country just keeps chugging along.
There's real America: The guys you see in their hard hats lending a hand to their neighbors, enjoying their families, and popping a cold one on a Sunday to watch the game on TV. The women who work hard and enjoy being with their friends and bring a casserole to the neighbors whose Mom is sick.
Then there's people who are unhappy with.... pretty much everything. And are mad because they don't get to boss people around and are really ticked they don't get their way. So they live joyless lives full of fear and tell each other that Armageddon is coming. It's predictable. They are predictable.
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The Federal Govt is the worlds worst about interfering with Private Business. The Regulations, Taxes and Restrictions are putting whole industries out of business or causing them to relocate out of the country.
This is one area you are 100% wrong. You may or may not have the right to start a business but you have no ability in running it without severe Govt intrusion.
If you had any real world experience, you would understand.
I should ask you if you have any real business ownership experience, you would understand the government isn't severely intruding into how you run your business.
I love how you guys use theory, sorry buddy, we have owned 5 businesses in the past 10 years.
BTW, dunno that the GOP is that worried, so much as the extremist Neo-cons, who are damn near afraid of most everything and everyone to begin with... illegals, minorities, feminazis, edu-macated elites, lib-ruls, joos, atheists, muslims, gays, etc..
in short, they're petrified over anything different or having to do with "change"!!
You got it. It's amazing how stuck in motion they are. I live in Texas and I love my state but when it comes to way of life there are some real nut cases here. They are horrified that their way of life, whatever that is, will crumble. To be frank they are scared of minorities.
Y'all didn't care when Reagan or either Bush was president. When they were in office, running up the deficit was for "the good of the country," "to end the Cold War," blah, blah, blah.
And, we all know they aren't really interested in stopping spending now. When an "R" puts ending Big Oil and Gas subsidies on the table I'll believe, When an "R" puts ending subsidies for Big Ag on the table I'll believe. When an "R" puts ending the manufacture of jets and tanks that the military doesn't want, I'll believe.
Until then, it's just so much talk.[/quote]
Like you? Did running up the deficit result in the National Debt exceeding US GDP? No, it didn't, so in what ways are they similar? Well, they're not, but nice try at obfuscating.
Regarding "Big Oil and Gas" subsidies, why did you refuse to point out the legislation introduced by Democrats? Why did Democrats vote for those subsides? The funny things is that when Republicans ended the ethanol subsidies, it resulted in higher gasoline prices and all you did was whine and complain.
Can you to explain to everyone how "Big Oil and Gas" can compete globally when....
1] Other countries have lower corporate tax rates; AND
2] Other countries subsidize Big Oil and Gas; AND
3] Many countries have nationalized oil/gas --meaning they have unlimited financial resources through their respective governments while US companies do not; AND
4] Wages in the US are absurdly higher than in other countries.
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24
Not only were those two wars started, but, they weren't included in the budget until after Mr. Obama was inaugurated.
Yes, they were included. The Democrats gleefully appropriated funding every year, including 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 when they controlled the House.
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Originally Posted by TigerLily24
I agree with the OP. Things are simply not as bad as the doomers want to believe it to be.
Nobody is predicting doom.
Since you imply you understand Economics, why don't you explain to everyone how cities and States can gain sales tax revenues if FICA/HI taxes are increased? If an average of $106/month is going directly from people's paychecks to the federal government, how do States and cities collect sales taxes on that?
Is there some kind of magical spell that one can cast? How does that work exactly?
What happens when States and cities have less revenues? Are services increased or cut?
Challenging....
Mircea
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Originally Posted by Wapasha
Read up on the fiscal and regulatory cliff we are about to head off of on Jan 1st 2013, then ask yourself what kind of a deranged, and dysfunctional government would create so many ticking time bombs, that are all set to go off at once.
Do internet searchs for stuff like taxrmageddon, the fiscal or regulatory cliff, and search for EPA. affordable Care Act, and Dodd Frank regulations that were so damaging to our country's economy, that the dems decided to put them off until after the election.
That's a good way of putting it.
Agreeing...
Mircea
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Originally Posted by MustangEater82
Thing I wonder, why is the federal government even involved with things like gay marriage/abortion/whatever.
It's classic Leninism right out of the Red Book -- harp on trivial issues of no consequence to deflect from real issues.
Because we dont live for the present, we plan for the future. Its how conservatives are. Obamas taxing and spending will eventually run our debt up to staggering levels.
So like a rightist. Only care when it impacts him or her personally.
Yeah you do all your caring with others tax dollars. Sing me another tune.
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