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Old 11-14-2012, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Here is an open letter to the entire House of Representatives who were all re-elected last week. They have powers that the leaners don't know about in that no money can be raised to spend unless the bill that calls for the raising came from the House. Of course, many here don't realize that revenue bills are what this speaks to. Most don't, yet, know that one major law that was declared a tax law last summer originated in the Senate which makes it unconstitutional. What will John Roberts do when the Court has to determine if that is true and legal? I wonder if the Chief Justice didn't "take" the left when he sided with the left activists.

Anyway, if those Reps don't stand up to Obama, from the very start they, no doubt, won't be re-elected and all of them have to be campaigning right now for 2014. Obama doesn't have to campaign any more so maybe he can take care of his job now. It was Republicans who elected most of those people wasn't it? Will we vote for them again if they lie down and let Obama, Boehner and Reid push us around anymore? I won't. In fact I didn't vote for the Rep I got pushed in with this time since he is a heavy union leaning Republican.


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Old 11-14-2012, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Durham, NC
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The way I see it is that the GOP has found themselves sitting in a tight place right now. The electorate just told their presidential candidate they don't want to make entitlement cuts, but left them in the House in order to fix the economy. If you can't cut entitlements, then you have to either cut out the pork they've added over the years, or they have to raise taxes to cover spending. Raising taxes is pretty close to saying "Vote me out, I don't want this job anymore".

I don't feel particularly sorry for them. They COULD have softened up a bit and let Obama bear the blame for a tax increase. They would have been able to close the debt gap a bit, and possibly make good on their strategy of making Obama a single term president.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:18 AM
 
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Yes they had best better find their spines.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Default Democratic Reps

The rock ribbed conservative state of New Hampshire elected two Democratic Reps this month. We are already working to keep them in Congress.

It is time for the national Democratic Party to take over the rest of the House and elect a veto proof majority in the Senate. Then we will be able to start implimenting a New Dawn in America with less foriegn wars, a smaller military with less spending, universal health care without private sector insurance companies and , most importantly a return to an Indusrtial, Investment, Production and Wages economy to replace the disster of the Finance, Investment, and Real Estate debacle.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:37 AM
 
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The rock ribbed conservative state of New Hampshire elected two Democratic Reps this month. We are already working to keep them in Congress.

It is time for the national Democratic Party to take over the rest of the House and elect a veto proof majority in the Senate. Then we will be able to start implimenting a New Dawn in America with less foriegn wars, a smaller military with less spending, universal health care without private sector insurance companies and , most importantly a return to an Indusrtial, Investment, Production and Wages economy to replace the disster of the Finance, Investment, and Real Estate debacle.
The National Democratic party is going to do this? What track record are you looking at?
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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Yes they had best better find their spines.
Ironic considering it was Obama that largely caved to the republicans in his first term.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Ironic considering it was Obama that largely caved to the republicans in his first term.
I have to wonder if you think that Boehner caving to Obamaa was done before or after the first term.

I might add that in the early days of the first term when the Dems had control of both houses they couldn't do much else but argue and fight about all that universal healthcare crap. Once they got that one settled they had to work on another stimulus act since the first one didn't work out so well

Yep, I really have to wonder how you blame the GOP for anything but trying to keep him and his from stealing too much over what they had managed.

I don't think that Boehner has talked a lot with his members about what they will agree to do with Obama and he might learn soon that he may not have his leadership seat when the new Congress is formed up in January. Boehner has just been too much of a RINO for some time and seems to be working on being like that some more.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The National Democratic party is going to do this? What track record are you looking at?
They really hope they can work out something to get Nasty Nancy back in control in two years from now. The bad part is that they may make it if Boehner and his other establishment members get what they want in what appears to be bi-partisanship.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The way I see it is that the GOP has found themselves sitting in a tight place right now. The electorate just told their presidential candidate they don't want to make entitlement cuts, but left them in the House in order to fix the economy. If you can't cut entitlements, then you have to either cut out the pork they've added over the years, or they have to raise taxes to cover spending. Raising taxes is pretty close to saying "Vote me out, I don't want this job anymore".

I don't feel particularly sorry for them. They COULD have softened up a bit and let Obama bear the blame for a tax increase. They would have been able to close the debt gap a bit, and possibly make good on their strategy of making Obama a single term president.
I disagree that the electorate "left them in the House in order to fix the economy." The State legislatures have been busy remaking Congressional districts so those House GOP members have safe seats. It is far from the will of the people, who correspondingly increased Democratic Senatorial majorities.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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I have to wonder if you think that Boehner caving to Obamaa was done before or after the first term.

I might add that in the early days of the first term when the Dems had control of both houses they couldn't do much else but argue and fight about all that universal healthcare crap. Once they got that one settled they had to work on another stimulus act since the first one didn't work out so well

Yep, I really have to wonder how you blame the GOP for anything but trying to keep him and his from stealing too much over what they had managed.

I don't think that Boehner has talked a lot with his members about what they will agree to do with Obama and he might learn soon that he may not have his leadership seat when the new Congress is formed up in January. Boehner has just been too much of a RINO for some time and seems to be working on being like that some more.
I think you read my post in reverse.
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