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Drove through Indiana, Ohio, Tennessee, southern IL, MO, WY, AZ, NB, MT, and eastern WA on a road trip.
Lovely people, lovely country. Just think a bit different (not by much) and have different values (again not by much).
I still like folks who voted Republican. We just have a different perspective on some things is all. I'm sure it wouldn't take much in my life to have changed me to be more like them.
I think people make the "red/blue" state divide more than it really is. We're still a 50/50 nation, and have been for a good while now. Different opinions are good. Different perspectives rooted in experience and logic are good, and I found most people do follow logic. It's just too bad many politicians don't, but that's nothing new.
Same ol' same ol' for more than 80 years. My grandfather remembers when FDR enacted his policies. Some politicians were screaming bloody murder and secession, etc. Same for when Kennedy was elected.
Only way, he said, secession would make any sense is if the feds were taking an exorbitant (think 70+%) of income in taxes. He says taxes today are the lowest he can remember, and he can't understand why some would oppose a modest increase in taxes to you know, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for the wars we've waged, to PAY FOR THE ROADS, the POST OFFICE, and TAKE ON CHINA, and LEAD THE WORLD IN TECHNOLOGY.
He also says those who claim increasing taxes on the rich "socialism" is an idiot; he spent two years in Berlin, and remembers the real face of socialism.
LOL good to see how open minded and enlightened some liberals are....
SC is a red state, its African american population is more then double the rate of the rest of the united states. SC was one of the first places to have black people in large populations(slavery unfortuneately) There ahve been large populations of black people here since before the US was ever even a nation. Generations of blacks and whites lifing together, which leads to lots of interacial couples, and probalby more tolerance then anywhere else.
If I was a liberal I wouldn't cross a redstate, I might open my eyes and realize the mistake I made voting.
Back when I used to wear a ponytail I was in a part of Oklahoma affectionately called "little Dixie" and some random guy couldn't believe I could have a job and a ponytail, "round hear boy 'you gotta take yer pick"
We get alot of red state visitors where I work, and they are fine, friendly, warm people. The times I've been in red states and spoken with the locals I found them all to be the same way, often way more friendly than people in "blue" states, but that is really just based on anecdotal evidence and not indicative of anything . I am often reminded that no matter ones politics, at the end of the day we are all still Americans, and good folks are everywhere.
We get alot of red state visitors where I work, and they are fine, friendly, warm people. The times I've been in red states and spoken with the locals I found them all to be the same way, often way more friendly than people in "blue" states, but that is really just based on anecdotal evidence and not indicative of anything . I am often reminded that no matter ones politics, at the end of the day we are all still Americans, and good folks are everywhere.
Oh. My. God. I almost fainted when I read this from you of all people. I repped you for probably the first time.
40 degrees latitude is what seems to separate the more extreme of the red states to the south and much less so north of that, at least in the middle of the country. Grand Island Nebraska is indeed grand and north of 40 degrees latitude.
It depends on the Red State. I spent a little time in Oklahoma and I will NEVER go anywhere near there again! It was the most racist place on Earth (except Tulsa which was alright) and the people were scary. Alabama and Mississippi looked depressing and HOT AS HELL, only passed through quickly. Didn't mind Texas at all, and the people were super nice.
Now, keep in mind there are Red States I don't want to drive through that has NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS but because of one unsettling feature a lot of them have: THEY ARE TOO DAMN FLAT!
I drove through South Dakota once and ah my God! It was so flat and featureless...it was like one of those old video games that keep repeating the same background over and over again. After a while I kind of felt claustrophobic...I know, claustrophobic from too much space sounds crazy but man, it was nuts.
There is a feature they don't show you on maps of middle America. It is an ocean, just as vast and featureless as the Atlantic, only with grass in place of water.
Western Montana on the other hands is heaven on Earth.
I passed through Grand Island years ago on the way to Cheyenne from Lincoln on to Salt Lake to Tahoe to San Francisco to Arcata, California back down to San Diego to Las Vegas to Albuquerque down to El Paso and so on.
Nothing beats hitting a town you've never been to before, drinkin and hitting on girls.
All America has its similarities and differences. It's all good.
I'm sure Grand Island is fine town. I should have pulled over to get a coke and beef jerky.
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Originally Posted by 73-79 ford fan
40 degrees latitude is what seems to separate the more extreme of the red states to the south and much less so north of that, at least in the middle of the country. Grand Island Nebraska is indeed grand and north of 40 degrees latitude.
Should beeeeeeeeeee, sorry but i am not. Best friend yes i know lives in Mississippi. Have seen some strange looking people out there, but they are harmless, and found them honestly to be nice.
Don't laugh i'm more scared of the forests in the E.C. at night they get mighty dark, and i don't like them.
Never know a big-foot can be lurking round the corner!!
That's what a lot of people say about my state at night the way the trees look draping every square foot of the roads at the sides of the road (dark branchy shadows reaching into the sky) freak people out sometimes.
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It was so flat and featureless...it was like one of those old video games that keep repeating the same background over and over again. After a while I kind of felt claustrophobic...I know, claustrophobic from too much space sounds crazy but man, it was nuts. 
the way the trees look draping every square foot of the roads at the sides of the road (dark branchy shadows reaching into the sky) freak people out sometimes.
