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MSNBC is extremely left leaning. It is liberal pundits hosting a liberal, political discussion show.
Difference is - MSNBC isn't out their promoting themselves as "Fair and Balanced' or as a complete news show. It is not. Neither is Fox and they need to quit pretending they are anything other than what they are - a right leaning, political discussion television show.
What disturbs me about these kinds of posts is that liberals seem to not quite understand the "Fair and Balanced" meme that Fox promotes. Fox is not saying that it is not conservative leaning, it's saying that if you listen to their commentary, and then compare that commentary to the left-leaning guests they have on to rebut/defend/disclaim the conservative commentary, then you'll see that "fair and balanced" is the approach they are actually taking. Each show has a conservative commentator that is usually cast against a liberal commentator/guest. Fox has never taken the stance that the foundation of its viewpoints are not conservative. The threshold is conservative, the discussion is the balance. This is one of the finer details that liberals either just don't comprehend, or willingly ignore in their attempt to discredit the "fair and balanced" theme.
You probably call the Fortune Teller Hotline, too.
What's with people too stupid to realize polls are nothing more than guesses? They are fun for a little while but no more accurate than Dionne Warwick.
Most of the pollsters were on all the networks, including Fox. The polling results changed daily. Only incredibly low IQs would think what they said was accurate on one network but inaccurate on another. I mean, really, grab a clue, dems!
Really incredibly stupid is thinking you're smarter because your guess was more accurate. You do realize, do you not, that the same pollsters predicted THE EXACT SAME RESULTS on all networks.
No, you probably don't realize that.
Really DUMB is thinking you're smarter because your guess was accurate. That's the epitome of DUMB. Asked and answered.
Well, polls are statistics. Statistics is a mathematical science. It's the same methodology that scientists use to make judgments about bodies of water using water samples; medical personal who use blood samples, marketing professionals use to determine product placement.
Polling is performed using scientific methodology. Modern polling is extremely accurate and showed itself to be so on Nov. 6. The fact that Fox and conservatives reject the results they find inconvenient isn't a failure of polling. It's a failure of the Fox and conservative mindset.
You miss the point when you say, "thinking you're smarter because your guess was accurate." We accept the results that the scientific polls showed, while conservatives rejected scientific polls when the results differed from what they want them to be. It's true for this. It's true for climate science and it's true for the age of the planet.
Conservatives want to live in a fantasy relativity where things that they believe are facts.
The attitude that discounts any amount of evidence if it conflicts with ideological prejudices is not an attitude consistent with effective policy. If you’re going to ignore what polls say and what geologists say if you don’t like its implications, what are the chances that you’ll take sensible advice on monetary and fiscal policy?
It's no wonder conservatives believe that cutting taxes increases revenue and throwing people off of poverty programs improves their lives -- against all the evidence that it's not so.
Why would any critical thinking person watch MSNBC or any of the MSM.
The more someone puts themselves in the right wing bubble the less informed they become. That is a FACT. People who consume no news are better informed than people who watch Fox. That is also a FACT.
You can stay in the right wing bubble if you want but, no, most people won't consider you to be a "critical thinking person" if you do so because it just won't lead to you being informed on the facts. To compare, yes, the main stream media still uses tried and true journalism standards which are factually based rather than just spin and all the evidence shows that people who watch fact based journalism sources are indeed better informed. Ignore those facts at your peril.
What disturbs me about these kinds of posts is that liberals seem to not quite understand the "Fair and Balanced" meme that Fox promotes.
Oh, yes, they completely understand that it is just a meme and that Fox is indeed neither fair nor balanced. This has been proven over and over again by dozens of objective studies. It is also a FACT that the more Fox News you watch the less informed you become on factual issues. That is not an opinion but a fact proven by dozens of studies. Hell, people who watch absolutely no news actually get more facts right than people who watch Fox News. Is it really a "news show" if viewers actually become less informed the more they watch it?
Oh, yes, they completely understand that it is just a meme and that Fox is indeed neither fair nor balanced. This has been proven over and over again by dozens of objective studies. It is also a FACT that the more Fox News you watch the less informed you become on factual issues. That is not an opinion but a fact proven by dozens of studies. Hell, people who watch absolutely no news actually get more facts right than people who watch Fox News. Is it really a "news show" if viewers actually become less informed the more they watch it?
Please show us the studies you cite. And try your best not to post those from liberal think tanks, liberal universities, and other liberal outlets.
If you post a study from a liberal outlet, it will be immediately discredited. That's your warning.
Fox..with Rove, Morris, and others, despite the polling showing otherwise, continued to tell their viewers Romney was going to garner over 300 electoral votes..
That's much more than just telling people what they want to hear..that's straight out deceiving them...and what's weird is Fox worshipers don't even seem to care..
No one on FOX said Romney was going to win. Some of their guests said Romney should win. Can't you get it straight, or don't you want the truth?
The most humorous aspect of this entire thread is that lefty fools don't know the meaning of the word 'trounce'.
Must be that unionized public education on display again.
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Originally Posted by Think4Yourself
Oh, yes, they completely understand that it is just a meme and that Fox is indeed neither fair nor balanced. This has been proven over and over again by dozens of objective studies. It is also a FACT that the more Fox News you watch the less informed you become on factual issues. That is not an opinion but a fact proven by dozens of studies. Hell, people who watch absolutely no news actually get more facts right than people who watch Fox News. Is it really a "news show" if viewers actually become less informed the more they watch it?
Nor do they understand the meaning of the word 'fact'.
anyone who watches any of those talking heads needs to get back to reality.Perhaps people need to watch progams that will help them make decisions o now they are goig to make the future in a econmy that is about to go oiver or even slide down the cliff that is coming ;no matter how its done.We face mnay decades of payig for the spending ;one way or anther.
It looks like more people are interested in reality these days or at least more people now understand that Fox Noise only sells lies and propaganda. Sure, the wing nuts find the lies and propaganda comforting but it isn't real and it only makes you a misinformed fool.
I think this is true.
I'm sure their cringe-worthy election coverage and constant cheer leading for the loser finally woke some of their viewers up.
Not that watching MSNBC is any improvement - just a different bias.
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