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Old 12-06-2012, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Hillary said Assad was a "reformer" or something along those lines not too long ago. LOL
That was during the Arab Spring, wasn't it?

 
Old 12-06-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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it woudl be the big question. If Syria has WMDs where did they come from?
Most of their conventional weapons came from Russia, so I worry about them, too.
 
Old 12-06-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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Actually folks,wmd`s are not that hard to make or acquire elsewhere.
Countries With Weapons of Mass Destruction - Intelligence Threat Assessments
 
Old 12-06-2012, 12:43 PM
 
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Most of their conventional weapons came from Russia, so I worry about them, too.
Russia has plenty of wmd`s too. Anyone in favor of invading?
 
Old 12-06-2012, 12:43 PM
 
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Actually folks,wmd`s are not that hard to make
Ain't that the truth. My great aunt Betty used to drop some pretty nasty stink bombs at the Christmas dinner table... You could count on that attack every year.
 
Old 12-06-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Russia has plenty of wmd`s too. Anyone in favor of invading?
The logic of our propaganda would suggest we should invade Russia, China, North Korea, UK, France, Israel, Pakistan (oh, wait...drones!) and ourselves (starting to happen).
 
Old 12-06-2012, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Likely fleeing.

Iraq did not have weapons. Get over it.


Iraqi Revolutionary Guard moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria in advance of the U.S.-led action to eliminate Hussein's WMD threat.

As Sada told the New York Sun, two Iraqi Airways Boeings were converted to cargo planes by removing the seats, and special Republican Guard units loaded the planes with chemical weapons materials.



There were 56 flights disguised as a relief effort after a 2002 Syrian dam collapse.

There were also truck convoys into Syria. Sada's comments came more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."

Both Israeli and U.S. intelligence observed large truck convoys leaving Iraq and entering Syria in the weeks and months before Operation Iraqi Freedom, John Shaw, former deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, told a private conference of former weapons inspectors and intelligence experts held in Arlington, Va., in 2006.



The intelligence reveals that a 200 square-kilometer area in northwestern Syria has been photographed by satellites at the request of a Western intelligence agency at least 16 times, the most recent being taken in January. The site is near Masyaf, and it has at least five installations and hidden paths leading underneath the mountains. This supports the reporting of Nizar Nayouf, an award-winning Syrian journalist who said in 2004 that his sources confirmed that Saddam Hussein’s WMDs were in Syria.

One of the three specific sites he mentioned was an underground base underneath Al-Baida, which is one kilometer south of Masyaf. This is a perfect match. The suspicious features in the photos and the fact that a Western intelligence agency is so interested in the site support Nayouf’s reporting, showing that his sources in Syria did indeed have access to specific information about secret activity that is likely WMD-related.
General Georges Sada, the former second-in-command of the Iraqi Air Force, claimed in his 2006 book that he knew two Iraqi pilots that flew WMD into Syria over the summer of 2002, which came before a later shipment on the ground.



ex-Russian intelligence chief Yevgeni Primakov, a KGB general with long-standing ties to Saddam, went to Iraq in December 2002 and stayed until just before the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.

Anticipating the invasion, his job was to supervise the removal of such weapons and erase as much evidence of Russian involvement as possible.

The Russian-assisted "cleanup" operation was entrusted to a combination of GRU and Spetsnaz troops and Russian military and civilian personnel in Iraq "under the command of two experienced ex-Soviet generals, Colonel-General Vladislav Achalov and Colonel-General Igor Maltsev, both retired and posing as civilian commercial consultants."



Don’t forget that Jay Rockefeller(D), by his own admission, traveled to the Middle East in 2002 and tipped off Assad, among others, that invasion was a certainty.



An article in the fall 2005 Middle East Quarterly reports that in an appearance on Israel's Channel 2 on Dec. 23, 2002, Israel's prime minister, Ariel Sharon, stated: "Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria." According to the article, about three weeks later, Israel's foreign minister repeated the accusation.
 
Old 12-06-2012, 12:49 PM
 
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Russia has plenty of wmd`s too. Anyone in favor of invading?
So does India, Israel and Pakistan...

but no, we need to go after the perceived threats....
 
Old 12-06-2012, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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it woudl be the big question. If Syria has WMDs where did they come from?
If they came from anywhere, and say "Made in the USA", chances are from Iraq, delivered when drawing the red-line meant a slap on the wrist for having used any of them on civilians.
 
Old 12-06-2012, 12:52 PM
 
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Only sixteen times with all those installations? I doubt that.
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