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Old 12-10-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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What he does for a living is irrelevant to the point he is making. Not taking a philosophical point seriously because you don't like the profession of the person making the point is a sign of intellectual and moral bankruptcy.
Excuse me? He's the one saying "my money" in his opening salvo, so I feel perfectly justified in discussing his money. He chose to frame the discussion as a matter pertaining to him personally, not I.

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Old 12-10-2012, 11:29 AM
 
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Yeah. And society can also function without any money at all as well, right?
Some people will present the argument...

But, how would you barter? Let's say you have potatoes, and I need onions, but you want tomatoes in exchange for your potatoes. And I have none?

What is more efficient? Going on a mission for tomatoes, or, having some medium for exchange?
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Then on the other hand we have the likes of Buffet and Google execs saying "Tax me more" and then read how they are sheltering their money and one even gave up his citizenship before cashing in.

Maybe Schiff needs to talk to the rich liberals and find out how they do it so he can do it too and then join the "tax me more" bandwagon.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:39 AM
 
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When you take twice as much from him as from someone else, yeah, it does.
You are wrong. Read the Constitution.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:43 AM
 
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Some people will present the argument...

But, how would you barter? Let's say you have potatoes, and I need onions, but you want tomatoes in exchange for your potatoes. And I have none?

What is more efficient? Going on a mission for tomatoes, or, having some medium for exchange?

Efficiency does not mean necessity.


What is more likely to be a place that can grow wealth?

A nation with a strong military, opportunity for education, vibrant healthcare, police protection and working courts (ALL must be paid for, somehow)...... or a nation with none of the above?
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Efficiency does not mean necessity.


What is more likely to be a place that can grow wealth?

A nation with a strong military, opportunity for education, vibrant healthcare, police protection and working courts (ALL must be paid for, somehow)...... or a nation with none of the above?
60% of the budget goes for entitlement programs (SS, medicare and means tested). None of that is in your above statement which I bolded. That has to be paid for as well..subsidizing American lives.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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60% of the budget goes for entitlement programs (SS, medicare and means tested). None of that is in your above statement which I bolded. That has to be paid for as well..subsidizing American lives.
That's true but by lumping in need tested entitlement programs you are perhaps unintentionally obscuring the fact that 53% of your 60% goes to citizens 65 and over; 20% goes to the disabled; and 18% goes to the working poor.


Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:57 PM
 
Location: LA County
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Taxes aren't theft.


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Old 12-10-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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Taxes aren't theft.


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Yes they are ... when money is taken from you against your will, and spent on things of no benefit to you, it is most certainly theft.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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No worries. Peter will use Obama-supported tax loopholes to avoid paying money to Obama.
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