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Old 12-13-2012, 01:24 PM
 
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Who says the United States of America isn't a police state?

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Top U.S. intelligence officials gathered in the White House Situation Room in March to debate a controversial proposal. Counterterrorism officials wanted to create a government dragnet, sweeping up millions of records about U.S. citizens—even people suspected of no crime.

A week later, the attorney general signed the changes into effect.

Now, NCTC can copy entire government databases—flight records, casino-employee lists, the names of Americans hosting foreign-exchange students and many others. The agency has new authority to keep data about innocent U.S. citizens for up to five years, and to analyze it for suspicious patterns of behavior. Previously, both were prohibited.

The Fourth Amendment of the Constitution says that searches of "persons, houses, papers and effects" shouldn't be conducted without "probable cause" that a crime has been committed. But that doesn't cover records the government creates in the normal course of business with citizens.
U.S. Terrorism Agency to Tap a Vast Database of Citizens - WSJ.com

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Old 12-13-2012, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Oh oh, better check behind those trees!
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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So Holder wants to collect data to analyze for patterns of suspicious behavior, but when it comes to his own agency giving guns to drug cartels he wants to stall and obfuscate.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:36 PM
 
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our government demands to know everything about us and yet tell us nothing about what it is doing.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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If you have nothing to hide..... Isn't what they say?

Our Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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In today's America we're ALL guilty until proven innocent.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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our government demands to know everything about us and yet tell us nothing about what it is doing.
They have to collect the information, so we can read about it in the revisionist history books.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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In today's America we're ALL guilty until proven innocent.
That's not true, if you work for a big financial company, bank, or federal agency you get a pass.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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That's not true, if you work for a big financial company, bank, or federal agency you get a pass.

Oops. I forgot.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:45 PM
 
Location: North America
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Who says the United States of America isn't a police state?



U.S. Terrorism Agency to Tap a Vast Database of Citizens - WSJ.com

Uh ohhhh, I'd better start closing the drapes before I walk around the house nekkid.

Thanks for the heads up!!!
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