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Yes, are you kidding? Just spend 20 minutes on World Bank DataBank and you'll be blown away.
But for the sake of elaborating...
The majority of gun related crimes are not mass shootings, but homicides that kill one to two people.
The vast majority of these crimes are committed in low income areas. Low income areas are more prone to violent crimes of all types including gun violence.
The above stats are common knowledge. I'd be happy to find studies if you like but any competent person can look something up on google scholar.
Continuing.
Most OECD (West European) countries, have what is called a compressed wage scale. A compressed wage scale occurs in a country with a high mean income with low income inequality. Thus, these countries have small populations of the low income people most likely to commit gun violence.
The US on the other hand, does not have what would be considered a compressed wage scale. (US Census Report) The US has a high rate of income inequality and a much higher rate of low income people. I'm sure most liberals would agree with this and most studies if not all agree the US has higher income inequality rates than W. Europe.
Therefore,
Since the United States has a higher proportion of low income people and low income people are far and away the most likely to commit gun crimes, it should not be surprising that the United States has a higher rate of gun crimes, based on these demographics.
For example, despite incredibly tough gun control laws, Chicago, particularly the poorer Southside has a very high rate of gun related homicides, compared to wealthy Southern suburbs with very high gun ownership rates, such as The Woodlands, TX or Mountain Brook, AL.
These demographics can be further broken down, but I believe this should suffice.
See... this is what I don't get. You KNOW what the problem is... can explain it succinctly and cogently... but then you utterly FAIL at coming to any suggestions for solving the problem. You've got to do that. Anything less is just rubbing our faces in it. Every Conservative can tell us why Assault Weapons bans won't work or limits on magazine size or any other kind of "gun control". Ok... what will? Doing nothing is no longer an option.
No, it blows my mind that it's only made an issue when rich white people get massacred.
They weren't all white and probably weren't all rich. You're the one who brought up race/money in this thread not "us". Normal people are just plain horrified and disgusted. My 5 year old daughter is biracial, so therefore I care less about the babies who got killed? It's the straw that broke the camel's back - deal with it.
See... this is what I don't get. You KNOW what the problem is... can explain it succinctly and cogently... but then you utterly FAIL at coming to any suggestions for solving the problem. You've got to do that. Anything less is just rubbing our faces in it. Every Conservative can tell us why Assault Weapons bans won't work or limits on magazine size or any other kind of "gun control". Ok... what will? Doing nothing is no longer an option.
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No surprise there. It's just like their economic plan - do nothing.
Yes, are you kidding? Just spend 20 minutes on World Bank DataBank and you'll be blown away.
But for the sake of elaborating...
The majority of gun related crimes are not mass shootings, but homicides that kill one to two people.
The vast majority of these crimes are committed in low income areas. Low income areas are more prone to violent crimes of all types including gun violence.
The above stats are common knowledge. I'd be happy to find studies if you like but any competent person can look something up on google scholar.
Continuing.
Most OECD (West European) countries, have what is called a compressed wage scale. A compressed wage scale occurs in a country with a high mean income with low income inequality. Thus, these countries have small populations of the low income people most likely to commit gun violence.
The US on the other hand, does not have what would be considered a compressed wage scale. (US Census Report) The US has a high rate of income inequality and a much higher rate of low income people. I'm sure most liberals would agree with this and most studies if not all agree the US has higher income inequality rates than W. Europe.
Therefore,
Since the United States has a higher proportion of low income people and low income people are far and away the most likely to commit gun crimes, it should not be surprising that the United States has a higher rate of gun crimes, based on these demographics.
For example, despite incredibly tough gun control laws, Chicago, particularly the poorer Southside has a very high rate of gun related homicides, compared to wealthy Southern suburbs with very high gun ownership rates, such as The Woodlands, TX or Mountain Brook, AL.
These demographics can be further broken down, but I believe this should suffice.
Perfect.
Sooo... in other words, those "liberal / socialist" first-world nations out there are actually a lot safer than ours because they have more stable social structures?
Sooo... in other words, those "liberal / socialist" first-world nations out there are actually a lot safer than ours because they have more stable social structures?
Don't laugh, he's actually dead on about that. The US ranks about with China with respect to income and wealth distribution. No other First World Country looks like the U.S. with respect to the size and destitution of its underclasses.
Sooo... in other words, those "liberal / socialist" first-world nations out there are actually a lot safer than ours because they have more stable social structures?
Zing!!!!
Don't you love it when they argue against themselves, just to hang on to their guns, or their hate, or their paranoia that makes life so much fun?
Damn commie countries, living better lives than us.
For example, despite incredibly tough gun control laws, Chicago, particularly the poorer Southside has a very high rate of gun related homicides, compared to wealthy Southern suburbs with very high gun ownership rates, such as The Woodlands, TX or Mountain Brook, AL.
So, you're comparing the Southside of Chicago with two wealthy counties in the South to prove... what?
As far as the South is concerned, it's the most murderous area in the USA...
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Japan also has one of the highest suicide rates in the world.
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