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Old 12-18-2012, 06:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader View Post
We haven't had dictators or such the way they have. That is the purpose of our second amendment. I'd rather deal with common criminals than a dictator.
Grab a gun just in case king George comes back?

 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Just 70 years ago the Japanese were slaughtering millions. As recently as 1975 Spain was a dictatorship under a fascist whose rise to power was assisted by none other than Hitler.

We haven't seen such tyrants here because of our second amendment.
It has been reported that Japan War Crimes killed as many as 30 million.

Francisco Franco came into power during the Spanish Civil War. Atrocities were committed by both sides in the War.

We are not talking about wars, here.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Why do you care if someone was murdered with a firearm, or some other tool? Talking "gun violence" only is a way to deflect from the fact that if guns aren't available, some other weapon will be used to commit murder.
They only get excited about the gun body count because death isn't what they really want, they want control over people.

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Because you can't kill 20 children in 15 minutes without a gun! That's NRA hogwash your drinking up.
Yes you can, smallbrains.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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It has been reported that Japan War Crimes killed as many as 30 million.

Francisco Franco came into power during the Spanish Civil War. Atrocities were committed by both sides in the War.

We are not talking about wars, here.
Japan was a brutal place well before the war. Franco was having people murdered or imprisoned well after the war. The point of course is such tyrants have never taken power in this country.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:23 PM
 
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They only get excited about the gun body count because death isn't what they really want, they want control over people.



Yes you can, smallbrains.
I bet you can.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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The faster the weapon, the higher the body count.

Hours before Adam Lanza began his carnage in Newtown, knife-wielding Min Yingjun went on a rampage in a central China village school. Lanza killed 28 people, including himself. Min didn’t manage to kill anyone.
They were lucky, it was a fluke he didn't kill anyone. In many other mass knife attacks in China the crazy killed more people than they wounded. I'm sure you'd much rather cherry pick one outlying event though.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:24 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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We need to carefully weigh the facts, discuss all aspects of the problem, and try to find solutions that best serve everybody.


Nice thought- just not possible.

I have no doubt Congress will come up with some namby-pamby that will maintain the status quo along with some new tax revenues for the states.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:26 PM
 
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The OP is correct. This crap is uniquely American based on frequency. That's just a fact whether you like it or not.

In the same time that we've had something like over 30 of these events, the REST OF THE WORLD has had about 13.
And it has nothing to do with being one of the largest countries on Earth, and hence more deaths over all
 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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They were lucky, it was a fluke he didn't kill anyone. In many other mass knife attacks in China the crazy killed more people than they wounded. I'm sure you'd much rather cherry pick one outlying event though.
I chose this because of the proximity of time related to two horrific crimes intendeng to murder as many as possible in the shortest period of time.

If the Newtown guy had knifes the toll would not have been what it was.
 
Old 12-18-2012, 06:31 PM
 
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And it has nothing to do with being one of the largest countries on Earth, and hence more deaths over all
That's right, IT DOES NOT!!! It's gun fatalities PER 100,000 people!

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