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Old 12-18-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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I don't support pre-school and kindergarten teachers carrying guns in schools. Not a good idea.
Simple question:


How are they supposed to defend themselves and their students if a gunman comes into their school and decides to take aim at them?
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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... but for God's sake don't let 'em unionize.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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Simple question:


How are they supposed to defend themselves and their students if a gunman comes into their school and decides to take aim at them?
It's not a pre-school teachers job to be an action superhero.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:15 PM
 
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It is proven that when a shopkeeper or would be victim turns the tables on a criminal and shoots them that crime in the area goes down. It is logical to assume that a would be shooter might seek a different place to attack if they thought that they might themselves be shot before they can complete their objective.
Of course, scum criminals and homicidal maniacs can be different so its hard to say that it would be 100% the case.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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It's not a pre-school teachers job to be an action superhero.
I never said they would be trying to be a action superhero. Let's try this again...........How are they suppose to protect themselves and the children if a armed gunman comes ino the school and takes aim at them?

Please answer that simple question
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:25 PM
 
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I never said they would be trying to be a action superhero. Let's try this again...........How are they suppose to protect themselves and the children if a armed gunman comes ino the school and takes aim at them?

Please answer that simple question
I'm not a trained law enforcement agent, so I don't know, but neither are pre-school teachers.

Why don't surgeons have access to guns in hospitals, someone might come in and attack them, and what about priests and nuns? How are they supposed to protect themselves?
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: under a rock
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It's not a pre-school teachers job to be an action superhero.
Oh come on! Just show 'em a few Chuck Norris films and they'll be just as ready as these "don't take my gunz" bellyachers.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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It is a win-win situation.

A rational ( I use the word guardedly, and only to mean that someone is capable of planning and executing as opposed to someone who is acting impulsively and in a deranged manner) person who wants to attack a school would be deterred by the possibility that a faculty member may be armed and capable of preventing the massacre.

A shooter who is not deterred for whatever reason could be stopped before they have the opportunity to do maximum damage.

Don't we owe our children some semblance of security?

How can anybody who cares about children oppose this proposal?

Hiding under desks and in closets just makes one a sitting duck.

One must have the means to fight back and defend the school.
Guns stop beating hearts. It's just that simple.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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Huh?

Why would you want to encourage a shooter to attack a kindergarten classroom?
Becuse the gun can get into the hands of Children! The teacher could also have mental issuses or a bad day. Not smart.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:31 PM
 
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I can see it now. A heavily-armed lunatic barges into Mrs. Beasley's first grade class. The teacher calmly reaches into her desk and pulls out her Glock 31. She takes aim and readily dispatches the assailant.

Or, more realistically

Adrenaline causes her to start firing wildly, while frightened and panicking children are running all over the classroom--getting caught in the crossfire between the two armed adults.

Or

One of the kids gets a hold of the weapon and takes out some classmates.

The reality is that there is no way to prevent the actions of someone like Adam Lanza. The best we can do is to limit the access these people have to weapons capable of this kind of destruction.
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