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Old 12-30-2012, 01:02 PM
 
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He is taking a risk by doing so. The government can label him a terrorist and lock him away forever. You can post and say whatever you want. People always have the ability to criticize in a police state, it is the consequences that comes with it. That's why the founder of wikileaks is on the run. I'm sure that the FBI/NYPD/CIA/NSA/DHS/DOD monitors boards like this and collects your information.
Beware of the black helicopters!
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Beware of the black helicopters!
They don't need black helicopters, they already have drones.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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Same with cooking utensils! When's the last time you heard that "Le Cordon Bleu" was shot up?
Soon Hell's Kitchen and Chef Ramsey will be a knife free zone.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Originally Posted by Arus

You obviously do not know what a Police state is.
Are you free to:
believe in any religion you want?
I agree with this, the branch davidians were allowed to believe their religion, right up until the day the government decided to kill them
Yeah, lord knows we can't go around depriving child molesters of their ''freedom'', especially when they're willing to kill themselves and their kids in order to keep it!

Twisted priorities... kinda like all paranoid fanatics!

Branch Davidian Children Tell Of Abuse At Waco Compound
Bolderdash, what would you expect coming out of Chicago, except more coverup. Even if they were molested, which is a lie, burning them alive is not the solution of sane people. Nobody was held accountable for this massacre, nobody! Don't you dare blame the victims, that can't be heard.


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THE OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT EVALUATION:
According to a 220 page critique of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms issued by the Treasury department in October of 1993, the Feb. 28 raid on David Koresh's compound in Waco, Texas, resulted in the death of four ATF agents and six cult members and led to a 51-day siege and a fiery conflagration that claimed the lives of 85 people, including at least 17 children, The Bureau, the report said, not only handled a sensitive situation ineptly but tried to cover up its bumbling with lies and obfuscations. As the study coldly noted, "There may be occasions when pressing operational considerations-or legal constraints-prevent law-enforcement officials from being... completely candid in their public utterances. This was not one of them." The field commanders made "inaccurate and disingenuous statements" to cover up their missteps, putting the blame on agents.

After the report was released, Treasury Secretary Lloyd Bentsen, whose department is in charge of ATF, announced the replacement of the agency's entire top management. Its boss, Stephen Higgins, who knew the report was going to be harsh, announced his retirement three days before.

The Waco Attack: Waco Texas - CoverUps.com
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:48 PM
 
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So basically you think they should have warned the parents and the kids in advanced? It's a drill, you don't warn of drills. The parents were warned in advanced but some chose for whatever reaon to ignore those and get themselves on TV whinning about it. By the way, those were high school students not little children, they will get over it. Quit making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Yes you tell em it's a drill like a fire drill etc. I don't care if they're in high school. What if some kid wigged out and tried to jump out a window or something? All for the children though right.
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Old 12-30-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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They don't need black helicopters, they already have drones.
Do they use the big drones or the little remote control ones?
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:18 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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As a teacher I find this appalling. In 2010 there were 132,183 public schools in the USA. From 2010 to present (2010,2011, and 2012) there have been 15 shootings in those schools. That translates into a .01134% chance a child will being in a school with a school shooting in a three year time period or about .004% chance a year. That's 1 in 250,000. Why are we terrorizing kids when we have those kinds of odds?
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:48 PM
 
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Not yet. But we have been inching in that direction for twenty years. Few seem to have noticed.

We are getting there and all these highlighted shootings in the last six months serve as a further catalyst toward it. You have do-nothing legislative & executive federal branches, fiscal cliffs that will fix nothing no matter the action taken & increased demand for higher gun restrictions & all this data to be tracked, a guaranteed 16 years of idiot president-figureheads... ugh, most will happily accept it. The bare fact that there has been no determined effort to pass a coherent federal budget in nearly 4 years is telling, with the just as naked fact that this whole farce has been turned into some titanic ideological struggle... well, it is a classic example. just stay tuned in and remember that if you can get your pet peeve or peculiar fetish promoted in a good light something positive has been done somehow. Don't forget to blame somebodies for somethings as deflection makes your stand seem less tarnished, and war is war after all.

Sometimes mass societies need to let go and be driven around by authority if they find they have no general direction, as the US is now, obviously. When people are tired and confused and irate in any old way from all the numbing activities going on around them, when the things they have done in life that seems correct as it has been portrayed as being safe are dubious, as mighty changes keep coming daily to induce paranoia that keeps the brain grinding, people will agree to almost anything.

Strange how easy it is to get so many so mis-directed... & sad.

"Hope springs eternal..."
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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"Need any more proof the US is a police state?"


It must have been scary, especially after Sandy Hook killings.
That being said, I wish you lived some time in a true police state to see how it really works.
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