True or False: Whites Automatically Get Advantages Blacks Don't Get in America (poll, racism)

[ChocLot]

Originally Posted by pch1013

Of course it's not a myth.

Because the political and economic power structure in this country is mostly white.

Which means that white people are more likely to get ahead in that power structure.

Which means their descendants are also more likely to remain ahead in that power structure.

Because connections are everything, and people with connections among the power élite -- which is mostly white -- have innate advantages compared to those who don't.

And the few existing programs whose intent is to level the playing field for historically disadvantaged minorities haven't even come close to changing that.

So if you're a white person who hasn't gotten ahead, don't blame the black man who you think got hired ahead of you (or, for that matter, the one in the White House) -- blame yourself. You really have no excuse.

Great response. I have no sympathy for those who managed to screw up a 300+ years economical head start.

[Mashed Potatoes]

Originally Posted by pch1013

Of course it's not a myth.

Because the political and economic power structure in this country is mostly white.

Which means that white people are more likely to get ahead in that power structure.

Which means their descendants are also more likely to remain ahead in that power structure.

Because connections are everything, and people with connections among the power élite -- which is mostly white -- have innate advantages compared to those who don't.

And the few existing programs whose intent is to level the playing field for historically disadvantaged minorities haven't even come close to changing that.

So if you're a white person who hasn't gotten ahead, don't blame the black man who you think got hired ahead of you (or, for that matter, the one in the White House) -- blame yourself. You really have no excuse.

Few existing programs? Have you been drinking today? There are exponentially more than a "few"

Making everyone equal is not a function of government, nor should it ever be.

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by Mashed Potatoes

Given the countless programs in which minorities are the chief beneficiary, it is indeed a myth.

Given the countless studies that have examined the issue from virtually ever angle from reactions to physical appearance to blind employment and real estate bias. Sorry, those programs only attempt to level the playing field.

[clb10]

Originally Posted by pch1013

Of course it's not a myth.

Because the political and economic power structure in this country is mostly white.

Which means that white people are more likely to get ahead in that power structure.

Which means their descendants are also more likely to remain ahead in that power structure.

Because connections are everything, and people with connections among the power élite -- which is mostly white -- have innate advantages compared to those who don't.

And the few existing programs whose intent is to level the playing field for historically disadvantaged minorities haven't even come close to changing that.

So if you're a white person who hasn't gotten ahead, don't blame the black man who you think got hired ahead of you (or, for that matter, the one in the White House) -- blame yourself. You really have no excuse.

My Laotian and Indian friends who came to the US with nothing and now have advanced degrees and thriving businesses must not have gotten the memo.

[pch1013]

Originally Posted by Randomstudent

Not just Roger Ailes. It is the way any good trial lawyer should ask cross.

Apologies for editing my earlier post... I was trying to remember who asked a racially loaded leading question during the 2000 South Carolina primary with the intent of sinking the McCain campaign (which worked). I thought it was Ailes, but it was in fact Karl Rove.

[pch1013]

Originally Posted by clb10

My Laotian and Indian friends who came to the US with nothing and now have advanced degrees and thriving businesses must not have gotten the memo.

Are they black? Because your original question concerns black people -- not Asian immigrants.

But since you mention them, how about their employees? Do they employ a lot of people of similar ethnic backgrounds? If so, does that tend to prove or disprove my thesis that people -- including whites -- are most likely to hire and promote those who most resemble them?

[godofthunder9010]

Originally Posted by clb10

So is the myth of "The White Advantage" true or not?

Us white folk are much less likely to get pulled over for the barest excuse and/or harassed by the cops. That alone makes the "myth" a reality.

The good news is that things seem to be steadily improving. We've come a long ways.

[ChocLot]

Originally Posted by Mashed Potatoes

Few existing programs? Have you been drinking today? There are exponentially more than a "few"

Making everyone equal is not a function of government, nor should it ever be.

So I guess you can list some of them here, right?

[ChocLot]

Originally Posted by godofthunder9010

Us white folk are much less likely to get pulled over for the barest excuse and/or harassed by the cops. That alone makes the "myth" a reality.

The good news is that things seem to be steadily improving. We've come a long ways.

To the displeasure of many.

[kevcrawford]

It's a myth. Now there are certain areas that are lower income and have worse schools. And yes, lots of minorities tend to live there. You know what's also very prevalent in those areas? Voting democratic. Everyone from the school superintendent to the district reps are Democrat. Have been for a LONG LONG time.

In your traditional "higher" income areas what's a common denominator? Most (not all) tend to vote conservative.

Maybe it has something to do with economics than skin color? Skin color, while very important, cannot by itself affect policy, etc. Voting can.