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Old 01-07-2013, 10:17 PM
 
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It's not "the liberal line". It's what the CREDIT RATINGS AGENCY itself said. That's a FACT even if you don't like it.

 
Old 01-07-2013, 10:19 PM
 
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If students with loans acted like the TP, they would get their degree, announce they had passed their debt ceiling, and never pay a penny back by not agreeing to extend the limit to cover what they already borrowed.
 
Old 01-07-2013, 11:22 PM
 
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It's not "the liberal line". It's what the CREDIT RATINGS AGENCY itself said. That's a FACT even if you don't like it.
Sorry but you're wrong.

Video - News Hub: S&P's David Beers on Downgrade Blame - WSJ.com

There he is saying "Both Congress and the Administration are jointly responsible" and "It's not about either party"
 
Old 01-08-2013, 12:07 AM
 
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Sorry but you're wrong.

Video - News Hub: S&P's David Beers on Downgrade Blame - WSJ.com

There he is saying "Both Congress and the Administration are jointly responsible" and "It's not about either party"
Think4yourself is 100% correct

The teabaggers held the nation hostage by refusing to stop their insane spending to the rich, and the S&P's reason for the downgrade was because of the baggers.

From the S&P report itself:

"Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012, remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues"

S&P | United States of America Long-Term Rating Lowered To 'AA+' Due To Political Risks, Rising Debt Burden; Outlook Negative | Americas
 
Old 01-08-2013, 01:35 AM
 
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Think4yourself is 100% correct

The teabaggers held the nation hostage by refusing to stop their insane spending to the rich, and the S&P's reason for the downgrade was because of the baggers.

From the S&P report itself:

"Compared with previous projections, our revised base case scenario now assumes that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, due to expire by the end of 2012, remain in place. We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues"

S&P | United States of America Long-Term Rating Lowered To 'AA+' Due To Political Risks, Rising Debt Burden; Outlook Negative | Americas
No, sorry. Your own link proves it:

The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan
that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of
what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's
medium-term debt dynamics.

See -- Congress and the Administration, just as I said. Not the Tea Party. And as for the part you quoted, "the majority of Republicans in Congress" does not equal the Tea Party. Think4Yourself stated that S&P specifically blamed the Tea Party. Not Republicans. So you have not proven him 100% correct. You have proven him 100% wrong.

Although, to be technical, Think4Yourself was referring to David Beers' appearance on TV, not the S&P report. But my own link already proved him 100% wrong there too, as Beers specifically stated he did not blame either party, much less the Tea Party.
 
Old 01-08-2013, 01:39 AM
 
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How about passing obamacare, devaluing the currency to extort purchasing power from the population, how about all the BS about cliff (especially from the lying sack of crap GOP) to then pass a bill with no spending cuts higher taxes and more debt, how about gun control, how about supporting social agendas that should not be the fed gov issues. That's how.

The tea party was for cutting taxes - is that still applicable? Anyone putting their faith on this gov is not thinking clearly. Nothing against free speech, gun rights or anything else given to us by our creator and the constitution.
It doesn't matter what anyone is for. or against.
There's a first amendment that guarantees free speech.
I don't see why you have a problem with that.

Do I think they're misguided, certainly.
Does that stop me from wanting them to have the right to free speech?
Absolutely not.

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Old 01-08-2013, 02:19 AM
 
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No, sorry. Your own link proves it:

The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan
that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of
what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's
medium-term debt dynamics.

See -- Congress and the Administration, just as I said. Not the Tea Party. And as for the part you quoted, "the majority of Republicans in Congress" does not equal the Tea Party. Think4Yourself stated that S&P specifically blamed the Tea Party. Not Republicans. So you have not proven him 100% correct. You have proven him 100% wrong.

Although, to be technical, Think4Yourself was referring to David Beers' appearance on TV, not the S&P report. But my own link already proved him 100% wrong there too, as Beers specifically stated he did not blame either party, much less the Tea Party.
It says right there clear as can be from the S&P link itself i provided that the reason why the credit was downgraded was because the GOP/teabaggers refused to stop their insane spending to the rich.
 
Old 01-08-2013, 02:37 AM
 
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It says right there clear as can be from the S&P link itself i provided that the reason why the credit was downgraded was because the GOP/teabaggers refused to stop their insane spending to the rich.
There is no "GOP/Tea Party". Those are two separate groups. That's the entire point. You can't quote someone mentioning Republicans, and then say it is 100% correct that he mentioned the Tea Party. That is simply factually incorrect.
 
Old 01-08-2013, 04:20 AM
 
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There is no "GOP/Tea Party". Those are two separate groups. That's the entire point. You can't quote someone mentioning Republicans, and then say it is 100% correct that he mentioned the Tea Party. That is simply factually incorrect.
The gop are far right, the teabaggers are radical right wing extremists, both under the (R)

Boner worked out a deal to avoid the credit downgrade with Obama, but backed out at the last second because the teabaggers were giving him hell as the deal included ending some of the insane GOP spending to the rich.

The teabaggers forced the destruction of the nation's credit rating, all in the name to defend their corporate masters,....
 
Old 01-08-2013, 05:35 AM
 
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There is no "GOP/Tea Party". Those are two separate groups.
Both are minorities within the House, but last week proved you correct. as 85 Establishment GOP members joined with the Dems in the new tax act vote, and the TP votes, as usual, were irrelevent.
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