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My late father had a big issue with both the mass marketing (and with it, the "dumbing down"), and the increased stridency within the advocacy for emancipation of women, which swung into high gear c.1970. His stock answer was "If a man can't be respected in his own home, why should he stick around?" Unfortunately for all of us, that argument seems to have resonated among a large segment of the male population.
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It just goes to to show that front end personal responsibility is non-existent in many peoples' lives.
responsibility is also choosing not to bring a child into this world when that child is not wanted.
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But, for the pro-abortionists, having an abortion is an example of personal responsiblity.
For PRO CHOICE people, abortion is ONE of those responsible actions that can be chosen so as not to bring an unwanted child into this world. For PRO CHOICE people, adoption and actually keeping the child after some thought is responsible as well.
Your rhetoric is transparent.
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They have no idea what personal responsibility on the front side actually means. These people disgust me.
I'm sure you'd be happy to be told by some unamed person how to cut your hair, what car you can drive and when, where you can or can't eat, whom you can and can't work for.
The couple could be married, the woman gets pregnant. husband goes "Oh *&)&)(" and bails.
this happens. This happened to my cousin after 2 years of marriage. She got pregnant, husband was like "I don't want kids". he bailed. she had an abortion. they divorced and she has been single since. she's looking to adoption now.
Not shocked by that. Having to raise a baby without a supportive father is going to put a serious damper on the desire for more kids.
Definitely, but hey you don't even have to worry about it. you can go and have irresponsible sex, and just get an aboriton, no incentive for personal responsibility.
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So are women just sleeping around then? If there is no man around how else are they getting pregnant? Sounds like a lack of responsibility on both sides there.
responsibility is also choosing not to bring a child into this world when that child is not wanted.
For PRO CHOICE people, abortion is ONE of those responsible actions that can be chosen so as not to bring an unwanted child into this world. For PRO CHOICE people, adoption and actually keeping the child after some thought is responsible as well.
Your rhetoric is transparent.
I'm sure you'd be happy to be told by some unamed person how to cut your hair, what car you can drive and when, where you can or can't eat, whom you can and can't work for.
See. There you go. Someone who believes that having an abortion is an example of personal responsibility. But you'll never hear this person argue that the person should have taken precautions to NOT get pregnant in the first place.
An absolutely vile and disgusting ideology at it's core. And they have no shame in it.
Absolutely. But in the end, men lead, women follow.
3rd world american taliban thinking here pilgrim, most women would have a problem with this thought.
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My late father had a big issue with both the mass marketing (and with it, the "dumbing down"), and the increased stridency within the advocacy for emancipation of women, which swung into high gear c.1970. His stock answer was "If a man can't be respected in his own home, why should he stick around?" Unfortunately for all of us, that argument seems to have resonated among a large segment of the male population.
respect to both partners makes for a happy union. respect isn't where the woman takes a back seat to life simply because she has a female parts
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See. There you go. Someone who believes that having an abortion is an example of personal responsibility. But you'll never hear this person argue that the person should have taken precautions to NOT get pregnant in the first place.
An absolutely vile and disgusting ideology at it's core. And they have no shame in it.
most pro choice folks advocate for birth control and education. pro choice people would like to see abortion rates drop just as much as anti choice folks. every pro choice person I know favors BC
Definitely, but hey you don't even have to worry about it. you can go and have irresponsible sex, and just get an aboriton, no incentive for personal responsibility.
Definitley.
That's a very mean and callous thing to say...no woman wants to go through an abortion, and for most I would think it would be a very agonizing and emotional ordeal....Some women actually DO believe that the man they fell in love and got pregnant with WAS going to stick around and help her support HIS/her child....but unfortunately for them, the man just walks away, and they are left to deal with the realities of having fallen for a smooth talking, and very selfish scoundrel..
Respect to both partners makes for a happy union. respect isn't where the woman takes a back seat to life simply because she has a female parts
Nor is it found where the man takes a back seat to a "new" set of rules formulated by a like-minded clique and marketed to the most impressionable and simplistic, in the name of expediency.
This brings in the spiritual part of being a man so if you aren't "spiritual" then just listen to the part of how men become strong by learning from other men.
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