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Old 01-23-2013, 09:57 AM
 
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An article on Slate.com puts forth the argument that one legacy of the pro-life movement has been to increase the acceptance of single-parent families while in more in areas more accepting of abortion have produced fewer single parent households and more stable families as exhibited by their lower rate of divorce.

As the article points out this is an interesting take on the rise of single parenthood and the increase in divorce rates, it ISN'T necessarily a article advancing abortion but simply looking at the effects of differing attitudes about abortion and single parenting and I would hope that any discussion that follows would keep that in mind (hope springs vainly but eternal).

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http://www.slate.com/articles/double...ngle_moms.html
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:18 AM
 
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An article on Slate.com puts forth the argument that one legacy of the pro-life movement
has been to increase the acceptance of single-parent families...
The alternative is to accept (promote) shot gun marriages.

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...in areas more accepting of abortion have produced fewer single parent households
and more stable families as exhibited by their lower rate of divorce.
More stable because these children are wanted and will have the benefit of financial stability

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As the article points out this is an interesting take on the rise of single parenthood
and the increase in divorce rates...
Those divorce rates are something of a sham too.

When Sissy and Junior are coerced into a shotgun ceremony...
it's more than deceptive to include them with couples who married without that pressure.
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:14 AM
 
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The alternative is to accept (promote) shot gun marriages.
Which appear to increase the divorce rate, so it would appear that they are short lived solutions.

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More stable because these children are wanted and will have the benefit of financial stability
That's a major assumption. Wanted based upon the desire to have a child or because having a child is better than the stigma of having an abortion or "violating" one's principles and beliefs. Considering the number of children who are abused and neglected it makes you wonder what wanted actually means.

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When Sissy and Junior are coerced into a shotgun ceremony...
it's more than deceptive to include them with couples who married without that pressure.
Do you have an suggestions on how to factor them out of the overal statistics? (that was a rhetorical question).
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Old 01-23-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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Yes, the least of many contributing factors.

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Old 01-23-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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There are a variety of postions that can contribute to the birthrate...
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:11 PM
 
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I feel mostly certain that teen and young adult (age 20-25, specifically) pregnancies constitute a significant portion of non-marital births in the U.S.

Do I believe that the pro-life political stance is a factor in increasing these instances of unwed parenthood?

I lean toward no.

Even being pro-choice myself, I look primarily at the fact that pregnancies belonging to reckless, uneducated, immature (and yes, usually unmarried) teenagers and early twenty-somethings has quite simply lost its social stigma. Sure, there are plenty of people, myself being one of them, who scoff at the reproductive behavior of post-baby boomer generations, but our pop culture (which, unfortunately, has permeated the social culture) embraces and exploits this problem for entertainment value. It's repulsive.

And go ahead, point to a 50-year decline in teen pregnancy--take a good, hard look around you and tell me what hope we can really even gather from such statistics.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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That's a major assumption.
Welcome to the forums

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Wanted based upon the desire to have a child...
Yes. Where abortion is more tolerated... you'll also find better sex education and contraception.
When these people *do* have kids... they do so from real choice.

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Do you have an suggestions on how to factor them out of the overall statistics?
(that was a rhetorical question).
Ha! Like that will stop me: How about just ordering AFDC to make it so?

There is another thread going here about the dearth of child support being paid.
They allege that only 42% of support orders are paid... fewer in full.
I made the same sham statistics argument there.

The key factor to ferret out is the nature of the relationship between these people (longevity is a good standard)
before conception occurred. I'll assert that the largest part of that relationship is proximity.
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