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Old 01-25-2013, 04:30 PM
 
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Whenever I notice a 100% choicer post it gets a . 1st, 4th, 8th month, what the heck, your body, your choice.
Some hearts will never soften but some will.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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Whenever I notice a 100% choicer post it gets a . 1st, 4th, 8th month,
what the heck, your body, your choice.
Beyond having no interest in the other view... you miss the point.

What's the point?
That these are matters for the woman and her physician to consider. No one else.
And yes... it's her body so that makes it HER choice.

If the idea of late term abortions disturb you then try an actually constructive approach.
The solution is don't make it hard for these women to have them early term.

If you really want to help... work on the sex education and contraception problems.
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Safe... Legal... Rare... Prompt... Free

Rare by means of far better education and use of contraception than we have today.
Aside from the million conceptions lamented so thoroughly in this thread...
there are probably another million similarly ill considered conceptions to be avoided... that aren't.

Prompt because once the diligent, educated try to avoid conception line has been crossed...
and the choice to exercise the right has been made... NO ONE gains from delay.

Free because dealing with the costs are the single largest hindrance to prompt...
(and it's the best use of public funds if/when even available HI won't pay)

The right to make the choice without the ability to exercise it... isn't much of a choice at all.
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Old 01-25-2013, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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What you say is totally true. These marches and videos, etc is not to have power over your body, it's to change your heart and mind. 55 million abortions is shocking. Society needs to have a good look at what the dignity of human life had come to. Society needs to have a heart change to have a softening of the heart and see the dignity of human life.

These marches and videos, etc may have no effect on you personally but it just may affect many people out there to take another look at their own lives and where they are headed. One abortion, then 2, then what difference does it make. Life gets cheapened.

You still have the power to make your own choice.
We wouldn't if it was up to you and others like you.

Please. Let's not pretend that these marches have any intent other than to bring about legislation to FORCE others to do what YOU think they should do.
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Old 01-25-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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You still have the power to make your own choice.
This is probably the only thing you and I will EVER agree on - the fact that women still have the power to make the choice that is right for them.

I have young granddaughters, and while I hope their lives will always be conflict-free and filled with joy and peace and happiness, I am happy that if the time ever comes they have to make a tough decision, they will have the POWER and the right to do so - legally and safely and without interference from people like you.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:17 AM
 
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Abortion had as much to do with controlling racial & economic 'undesirables' as it was about gender equality.

But that can't quite be admitted if poverty must be eliminated.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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We wouldn't if it was up to you and others like you.

Please. Let's not pretend that these marches have any intent other than to bring about legislation to FORCE others to do what YOU think they should do.
Isn't that what gay pride parades are all about?

Liberals = hypocrites.

Sorry - pro-life people care about morality and protecting innocent human life.

I am sorry that you don't feel the same.
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Old 01-26-2013, 12:46 AM
 
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Isn't that what gay pride parades are all about?

Liberals = hypocrites.

Sorry - pro-life people care about morality and protecting innocent human life.

I am sorry that you don't feel the same.
No, but nice try.

Gay parades are demonstrating for allowing equal rights to all American citizens. Gay people aren't forcing heterosexuals into gay marriages or unions, just trying to obtain the rights that they're being (wrongly) denied as American citizens. Many people at pro-life rallies would like to make abortion illegal again (good luck) due to their own personal views. They're trying to impose their views and morality on everyone else. They're trying to impose their personal views and impede women's right to choice of their own bodies. Like I said, gay pride parades are not about impeding other people's rights, but about gaining the fundamental rights that they're denied. Massive difference. Too bad your prejudices won't allow you to see that.

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:56 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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No, but nice try.

Gay parades are demonstrating for allowing equal rights to all American citizens. Gay people aren't forcing heterosexuals into gay marriages or unions, just trying to obtain the rights that they're being (wrongly) denied as American citizens. Many people at pro-life rallies would like to make abortion illegal again (good luck) due to their own personal views. They're trying to impose their views and morality on everyone else. They're trying to impose their personal views and impede women's right to choice of their own bodies. Like I said, gay pride parades are not about impeding other people's rights, but about gaining the rights that they're denied. Massive difference. Too bad your prejudices won't allow you to see that.
^^^Here's your answer Harrier.....couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:31 AM
 
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:51 AM
 
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Beyond having no interest in the other view... you miss the point.

What's the point?
That these are matters for the woman and her physician to consider. No one else.
And yes... it's her body so that makes it HER choice.

If the idea of late term abortions disturb you then try an actually constructive approach.
The solution is don't make it hard for these women to have them early term.

If you really want to help... work on the sex education and contraception problems.
---------

Safe... Legal... Rare... Prompt... Free

Rare by means of far better education and use of contraception than we have today.
Aside from the million conceptions lamented so thoroughly in this thread...
there are probably another million similarly ill considered conceptions to be avoided... that aren't.

Prompt because once the diligent, educated try to avoid conception line has been crossed...
and the choice to exercise the right has been made... NO ONE gains from delay.

Free because dealing with the costs are the single largest hindrance to prompt...
(and it's the best use of public funds if/when even available HI won't pay)

The right to make the choice without the ability to exercise it... isn't much of a choice at all.
Unless the poster was using bumper sticker hyperbole, I got her point. Her body, her choice. If it's in her body, nobody else has the right to restrict her choice. So, 1st, 4th, 8th month, it's in her body and she should have an unrestricted right to abort. A 100% choicer .
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