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Old 01-28-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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What is taken from them?
"Operationally speaking, the USPS nets profits every year. The financial problem it faces now comes from a 2006 Congressional mandate that requires the agency to “pre-pay” into a fund that covers health care costs for future retired employees. Under the mandate, the USPS is required to make an annual $5.5 billion payment over ten years, through 2016.These “prepayments” are largely responsible for the USPS’s financial losses over the past four years and the threat of shutdown that looms ahead – take the retirement fund out of the equation, and the postal service would have actually netted $1 billion in profits over this period."
The U.S. Postal Service | Need to Know | PBS
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: mancos
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most stuff I recieve or ship is illegal to ship usps so I have to use ups.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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"Operationally speaking, the USPS nets profits every year. The financial problem it faces now comes from a 2006 Congressional mandate that requires the agency to “pre-pay” into a fund that covers health care costs for future retired employees. Under the mandate, the USPS is required to make an annual $5.5 billion payment over ten years, through 2016.These “prepayments” are largely responsible for the USPS’s financial losses over the past four years and the threat of shutdown that looms ahead – take the retirement fund out of the equation, and the postal service would have actually netted $1 billion in profits over this period."
The U.S. Postal Service | Need to Know | PBS
That is not taking anything from there. That is forcing them to fund their debts. Something every single business must do.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:15 PM
 
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The Post Office sucks because in right wing "Reagan is God!!" land, everything that the government does (except the military), has to be a complete disaster, whether it is in fact a disaster, or not. It's called "an agenda".
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:18 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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One company is going to fail if it charges $18 to send a package an the other does it for $6 and needs the taxpayers to make up the difference in actual costs.
Except taxpayers don't make up the cost.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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"Operationally speaking, the USPS nets profits every year. The financial problem it faces now comes from a 2006 Congressional mandate that requires the agency to “pre-pay” into a fund that covers health care costs for future retired employees. Under the mandate, the USPS is required to make an annual $5.5 billion payment over ten years, through 2016.These “prepayments” are largely responsible for the USPS’s financial losses over the past four years and the threat of shutdown that looms ahead – take the retirement fund out of the equation, and the postal service would have actually netted $1 billion in profits over this period."
The U.S. Postal Service | Need to Know | PBS

So who should pay for there retirement fund?
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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That is not taking anything from there. That is forcing them to fund their debts. Something every single business must do.
Sorry, I misspoke in my original post.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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I know that the USPS often gets a bum rap but I am currently finding out that the USPS can, indeed, be a great choice for sending small packages.

Last week, I ordered two identical items from a company in the Bay area. For reasons unbeknownst to me, the company decided to place two different shipments of these two items: One with USPS, one with UPS. I don't think there is any rhyme or reason to it but I do know that the USPS package was shipped "First Class" while the UPS item was shipped "Ground." Both items left the facility on the same day.

Without knowing the details, I would assume that actual shipping costs must have been comparable - or there would have been a clear preference for one shipper over the other.

The USPS package arrived today - incredibly fast.

The UPS package is schedule to arrive seven days from now!

What gives? I thought the USPS sucked?
How far away are you from the Bay area?
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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So who should pay for there retirement fund?
It's the way the payments are structured. They have to fully pre-fund them, something private businesses don't.

Whether it should be required of all businesses is another argument.
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So who should pay for there retirement fund?
The USPS should pay for the retirement fund, but they don't need to do it through a ten year pre-paid fund that gives them no room to adjust their finances.
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