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Old 01-30-2013, 04:25 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Let me preface this by stating that I despise both parties. I am an independent and did vote Obama in 2008 (voted Johnson this time). I don't care for most politicians.

However I am a strong believer in the ideas of a somewhat traditional family. I don't believe one should be having kids unless married and supporting the kids and I believe in staying together pretty much no matter what. I think illegitimacy and divorce is destroying too many families and I see a difference between kids raised by married parents versus kids from divorced parents versus kids born out of wedlock.

Recently I gave an interview to a local paper about this and of course the claws come out, like how dare I attack non traditional families? That I should accept the new family life. That how dare I attack illegals going on welfare. So much more but you get the idea.

Since when has terrible ideas become the correct way?
Move to an area where the life decisions of complete strangers make you happy. Make that battered wife stay with that alcoholic, cheating husband. That will solve all our problems, and provide a more stable environment for the children.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:39 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Where you live does not dictate your ideology or beliefs.
And despite the continual self-Righteous claims to the contrary, your political leaning does not dictate your morality.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
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Its OK to favor traditional marriage. Its not OK to aggressively fund and campaign against gay rights which far too many baggers do.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:24 PM
 
Location: FL
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I agree that people should not have children unless they are in a financial position to support that child. But I hate to break it to you - liberals and conservatives both do just that (and have been doing so since the dawn of man).
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: FL
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A good argument in favor of free, easily available contraceptives.
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Old 01-30-2013, 05:40 PM
 
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Well then maybe all welfare needs to be cut and distributed by churches instead? I don't want to pay for these leeches.
Letting children starve and go without health care is immoral IMO.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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So maybe we should send all the children born out of wedlock, and their parents, as well as anyone else down on their luck, to the gulag, for Christian re-education!!! Teach them good honest Christian values, like tolerance, empathy, sympathy, generosity...... oh wait. Seriously, while I am in favor of common sense and personal responsibilty, the arrogance of some people really turns my stomach. I am stunned by the "values" of so many so-called Christians. What would Jesus do? A heck of a lot more good, and a crapload less of arrogant smug, self righteous judging, I can tell you. I'm currently in Tulsa, OK and I'm surrounded by all these "Christians" who make damn sure you do things their way-or else.
I am thankful to be moving to Australia on Saturday, where folks are just a tad more accepting of others, and a lot less judgemental. OK is high in poverty, and low in education, and is as conservative as the day is long. You self-righteous folks would be shocked at the amount of folks receiving some sort of govt benefit. You cannot legislate morality, you just can't

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Old 01-31-2013, 03:26 AM
 
Location: Between Heaven And Hell.
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Originally Posted by Idon'tdateyou View Post
Let me preface this by stating that I despise both parties. I am an independent and did vote Obama in 2008 (voted Johnson this time). I don't care for most politicians.

However I am a strong believer in the ideas of a somewhat traditional family. I don't believe one should be having kids unless married and supporting the kids and I believe in staying together pretty much no matter what. I think illegitimacy and divorce is destroying too many families and I see a difference between kids raised by married parents versus kids from divorced parents versus kids born out of wedlock.

Recently I gave an interview to a local paper about this and of course the claws come out, like how dare I attack non traditional families? That I should accept the new family life. That how dare I attack illegals going on welfare. So much more but you get the idea.

Since when has terrible ideas become the correct way?
We are in a World, where having standards and values, even morals, is classed as wrong.

Stick with it, and stay strong, my friend.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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nothing wrong with morals, or standards-we all have them to some degree. It's when you try to shove them down everyones throats, or try to make YOURS the law of the land, while putting down others who may have different ones. Big difference
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Between Heaven And Hell.
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Anything given, is something taken.
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