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Old 02-05-2013, 09:04 AM
 
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Au contraire. I'm an old folk. I don't hate him. I simply dislike him. I find him arogant and don't believe he takes seriously his oath to "support and defend" our (that's OUR as in every American's) Constitution and the separation of powers. I don't trust him, nor do I think he really cares for this country. We know his wife doesn't nor does his pastor. In the end it's less about who and what he is, however, and far more about his policies.

But of course we all know that the youth of this country have far more life experience and know more and better than us old has-beens.
Okay. Give examples, specific examples, of Obama NOT taking his oath seriously to "support and defend" the Constitution...specific actions the President has taken, not the general oh-I-know-what-he's-thinking type of voodoo/psychic/mind reading stuff, please.

Give examples or even one example which demonstrate to you that he does not "really care" for this country. That is so extremely vague and would actually require yo to be a mind reader far beyond the abilities of Edgar Cayce.

As for his wife, the First Lady, I don't KNOW that she doesn't really care for this country, so when you say "we" you can't possibly be including the whole country. And who the hell cares what the pastor of the church he attended years ago says, believes, etc.? His pastor is not President and is not a Presidential adviser.

Btw, have you somehow failed to see the enormous hatred directed at Michelle Obama.........even more so than her husband? She's been called the nastiest names and disrespected more than any other First Lady. Now, why would that be?

The only words you left out in your reasons why you "dislike" Obama were Socialist and Marxist......LOL.....but I'd guess that you do think those words apply to him because, according to you, he does not "support and defend" the Constitution. I'm eagerly awaiting to hear exactly what he has done, specifically, that did NOT "support and defend" the Constitution.

 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon View Post
Au contraire. I'm an old folk. I don't hate him. I simply dislike him. I find him arogant and don't believe he takes seriously his oath to "support and defend" our (that's OUR as in every American's) Constitution and the separation of powers. I don't trust him, nor do I think he really cares for this country. We know his wife doesn't nor does his pastor. In the end it's less about who and what he is, however, and far more about his policies.

But of course we all know that the youth of this country have far more life experience and know more and better than us old has-beens.
Age does not equal wisdom. Plenty of old, dumb men and women in this country. And there are plenty of smart, capable young people. I happen to know a number of old Boomers who support and like the President. And Michelle.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:16 AM
 
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Sol, she ran an outstanding campaign to get me kicked off this place some months ago and won so I don't plan to give her a reason to do it again. She has been a misplaced Obama lover as long as I remember seeing her write and she is not going to admit that she doesn't know anything.
I ran a campaign to get you "kicked off" this board? You have me mixed up with someone else. I love seeing your threads and posts. Most of them are quite entertaining. And I like communicating with you because you are so stubborn, even about silly stuff like the President throwing baseballs and shooting guns.

As for Obama, I certainly voted for him, but as for "loving him," he's too moderate in my opinion. Still he stands head and shoulders above Mitt Romney and other Republicans.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:31 AM
 
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Okay. Give examples, specific examples, of Obama NOT taking his oath seriously to "support and defend" the Constitution...specific actions the President has taken, not the general oh-I-know-what-he's-thinking type of voodoo/psychic/mind reading stuff, please.

Give examples or even one example which demonstrate to you that he does not "really care" for this country. That is so extremely vague and would actually require yo to be a mind reader far beyond the abilities of Edgar Cayce.

As for his wife, the First Lady, I don't KNOW that she doesn't really care for this country, so when you say "we" you can't possibly be including the whole country. And who the hell cares what the pastor of the church he attended years ago says, believes, etc.? His pastor is not President and is not a Presidential adviser.

Btw, have you somehow failed to see the enormous hatred directed at Michelle Obama.........even more so than her husband? She's been called the nastiest names and disrespected more than any other First Lady. Now, why would that be?

The only words you left out in your reasons why you "dislike" Obama were Socialist and Marxist......LOL.....but I'd guess that you do think those words apply to him because, according to you, he does not "support and defend" the Constitution. I'm eagerly awaiting to hear exactly what he has done, specifically, that did NOT "support and defend" the Constitution.
His three non-recessed appointments to the National Labor Relations Board.


The Congress added an amendment to the $1 trillion omnibus spending bill for 2012 to ban the National Institutes of Health from using any of its $30.7 billion taxpayer funds to “advocate or promote gun control.” However, Obama issued a signing order:
"I have advised Congress that I will not construe these provisions as preventing me from fulfilling my constitutional responsibility to recommend to the Congress’s consideration such measures as I shall judge necessary and expedient."
http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2011/1...trol-with.html

Obama had his HHS mandate religious organizations must give away free birth control and abortion pills, or face fines, imprisonment or both.

Obama told his DoJ not to enforce the DOM Act.

He signed the renewal of the NDAA again in 2013, giving him the power to apprehend and detain Americans indefinitely with no more authority, then because he thinks they might be terrorists or working with terrorists.

Those are a few off the top of my head.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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I ran a campaign to get you "kicked off" this board? You have me mixed up with someone else. I love seeing your threads and posts. Most of them are quite entertaining. And I like communicating with you because you are so stubborn, even about silly stuff like the President throwing baseballs and shooting guns.

As for Obama, I certainly voted for him, but as for "loving him," he's too moderate in my opinion. Still he stands head and shoulders above Mitt Romney and other Republicans.
Yup, he stands trillions of dollars in debt, and a fifty year high in poverty, above their heads.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 09:35 AM
 
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Age does not equal wisdom. Plenty of old, dumb men and women in this country. And there are plenty of smart, capable young people. I happen to know a number of old Boomers who support and like the President. And Michelle.
I know some who do too, although they are ignorant as a tree stump about politics, because they didn't know who Reid and Pelosi were, even though it was 2010, and they had been running the entire congress for over three years. All they knew, was Democrats - good, Republicans -bad.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 11:10 AM
 
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Okay. Give examples, specific examples, of Obama NOT taking his oath seriously to "support and defend" the Constitution...specific actions the President has taken, not the general oh-I-know-what-he's-thinking type of voodoo/psychic/mind reading stuff, please.

Give examples or even one example which demonstrate to you that he does not "really care" for this country. That is so extremely vague and would actually require yo to be a mind reader far beyond the abilities of Edgar Cayce.

As for his wife, the First Lady, I don't KNOW that she doesn't really care for this country, so when you say "we" you can't possibly be including the whole country. And who the hell cares what the pastor of the church he attended years ago says, believes, etc.? His pastor is not President and is not a Presidential adviser.

Btw, have you somehow failed to see the enormous hatred directed at Michelle Obama.........even more so than her husband? She's been called the nastiest names and disrespected more than any other First Lady. Now, why would that be?

The only words you left out in your reasons why you "dislike" Obama were Socialist and Marxist......LOL.....but I'd guess that you do think those words apply to him because, according to you, he does not "support and defend" the Constitution. I'm eagerly awaiting to hear exactly what he has done, specifically, that did NOT "support and defend" the Constitution.

Don't let your eagerness get the better of you. I dislike him and that's purely a personal opinon that reqires no justification. In my view he does little and is in constant campaign mode - all mouth, little substance. He uses "executive privelege to over-ride the separation of powers enumerated in the Constitution and that's enough for me. Even a federal court has ruled as much.

I have no hatred for the First Lady but I can't respect anyone who, by her own admission, was never proud of this country until her husband was elected. As for his self-described spiritual advisor for some 20 years, you figure it out.

By the way, I think Romney was a mutt. It wouldn't surprise me if a large number of votes he received were not as much votes FOR him as they were votes AGAINST Obama.

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Old 02-05-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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Yes, an expert says this is true. He makes mention of the fact that the second plume of smoke is caused by a "vent" hole that makes the kick lighter since he holds the gun so loosely he needs something like that. This picture was obviously an attempt at proving that he does what he obviously doesn't do.

Gun Expert:
What's wrong with the way he throws a baseball? And why does it matter? Either one, his throwing a baseball or shooting a gun, why does it matter?
 
Old 02-05-2013, 11:59 AM
 
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I have only been asked by a poll if I liked the direction we were going in and that was before the second election when Obama was trying very hard to look centrist but since the election he has decided that he has a lot more support for left leaning than I think he does.
What does answering a poll have to do with hating that a certain person who is President? What does answering a poll have to do with making constant personal attacks on a President whose name you normally twist to make a joke? The number of personal attack threads and posts about the President which you put up certainly indicates more than a "just dislike his policies" and could certainly be interpreted as an indication of hatred for the person.

I didn't like George W. Bush's policies, didn't like him as President (although didn't realize until later that Cheney was "really" the President), but I did not hate the man. In fact I sort of liked the guy. I liked his humor. It just seemed he was in a position as President for which he was not suited and I think he was used by those around him like Rove, Cheney, etc.
 
Old 02-05-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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What I find interesting is that liberals' didn't seize on the photo with a big "I told you so" proclamation. Since so little hoopla has been made over the photo, one can only assume that even liberals know that releasing such a goofy picture didn't do anything to help the President's case.

LOL
Told you so? Told you what? What the hell are you yapping about?
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