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Old 02-22-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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Ok, so we've had our "Dialogue about Racism" now. America can now exhale.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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Its a new era, an new year..
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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Yeah....in America....people can even choose when and how to die. Got to love this country . All those people who choose to die......I just don't understand it.....don't they know that America gives them that privilege?




Your arguement is invalid
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Old 03-03-2014, 09:28 PM
 
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Just for the record, black poverty is 3 times the rate of white poverty. Black unemployment is twice the rate of white unemployment. Black wealth is at least 10 times less than whites


you think this might be, because they don't finish basic school, they don't study, they don't apply themselves, they don't have a parent in the family, life is not all drugs and basketball you got too accept responsibility for your own life. keep your nose clean, pull your baggy pants up and read a book
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:08 AM
 
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Just for the record, black poverty is 3 times the rate of white poverty. Black unemployment is twice the rate of white unemployment. Black wealth is at least 10 times less than whites


you think this might be, because they don't finish basic school, they don't study, they don't apply themselves, they don't have a parent in the family, life is not all drugs and basketball you got too accept responsibility for your own life. keep your nose clean, pull your baggy pants up and read a book

So in otherwords discount inferior schools, poverty, bad neighborhoods and racism and act like it does not exist........you betcha
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:14 AM
 
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Just for the record, black poverty is 3 times the rate of white poverty. Black unemployment is twice the rate of white unemployment. Black wealth is at least 10 times less than whites


you think this might be, because they don't finish basic school, they don't study, they don't apply themselves, they don't have a parent in the family, life is not all drugs and basketball you got too accept responsibility for your own life. keep your nose clean, pull your baggy pants up and read a book
Could have something to do with intelligence of some.
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:28 AM
 
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So in otherwords discount inferior schools, poverty, bad neighborhoods and racism and act like it does not exist........you betcha
As far as equal schooling goes, that may have been true some 50 years go, but in most cases it is a level playing field for all. Some have excelled, but many cases, many chose to stay behind only because the law mandates they stay there until they are 16 years old. When the school district my kids attended absorbed another school district that was predominately under class blacks, metal detectors went up and there were fights on a daily basis, when there were very few before. Maybe this particular class of blacks just aren't smart/bright enough to learn the curriculum as it is presently taught. Please advise me of what should be done, since the current system does not seem to be working for them???
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Old 03-04-2014, 04:51 AM
 
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Well....I certainly apologize
if I have offended you, but I am not going to start changing the way I write. Nothing that I have stated is predicated or in need of 100%, 90%, 80%, 70%....ect, guilt from whites to be true. Hell.....America is guilty of many things, but does that mean that each American is guilty of whatever it is. A foreign person might hate America for its its foreign policy impact on their nation and peoples....but I never take it personal because I may object to the same policies that they do. You, as a white person, I would think should respond the same way. Regardless of whether or not I am in support of said policy, the FACT is that said policy, from America, is seen as doing damage to them. For me to try to argue that my innocence, as an American, changes their reality is asinine. They may ask me, then, what am I doing as an American to rectify the policy, to which I would respond that majority rules.

In the end, however, most people are not really offended PERSONALLY by what I write. They really are offended by me bringing up those truths......which they often try to discredit by making the argument about THEM and thus trying to discredit the argument about whites, in general, by trying to prove that what I say is not true of them......and thus my argument is destroyed. Believe me, if I qualified "whites" with "some"......most whites.....in the end, would still hate what I write. I doubt that your REAL problem with what I have written is that you think I am accusing YOU PERSONALLY. I seriously doubt that is what you are offended by. I think you just do not want me bringing up, period, the role that whites have played in so many problems.
No you don't apologize for anything, I believe it is you intent to blame evil whitey for all of the black mans ills, and you do it in every post in all of these types of threads. I don't know how many times I have ask you for a reasonable/intelligent solution, but you have never answered, ever.
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Old 03-04-2014, 06:02 AM
 
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No you don't apologize for anything, I believe it is you intent to blame evil whitey for all of the black mans ills, and you do it in every post in all of these types of threads. I don't know how many times I have ask you for a reasonable/intelligent solution, but you have never answered, ever.
I think that it is the intent of you, and others, to discredit me by suggesting that I implicitly, if not explicitly, have made ubiquitous and sweeping indictments, without exception. The truth is, however, that you cannot find ANY (I will be ubiquitous on this point) post in which I accused ALL whites of anything or ALL black problems to be the result of whites. In fact, in regards to the former and latter, I have, at various times when accused, explicitly stated that I did not believe such.

For the record, again, I do not blame ALL black problems on the history of racial discrimination from whites. Rather, I blame the socioeconomic gaps, between blacks and whites, on racism. In other words, every group have problems rooted in their own making due to that being a HUMAN frailty. We all make mistakes as humans and hence have problems that we create for ourselves from those mistakes. Thus, to suggest that all the mistakes and problems of black people are rooted in something whites have done is absurd. In fact, you know its absurd which is why people like you narrate that such is my position so that you can have a tenable defense, argument or reason to be against what I write. However, that is NOT my position and you dam well know it. My position is that the system that whites set up in America, for centuries, that promoted white supremacy, created the incubated (and now preserves) the conditions of socioeconomic racial inequality that is conserved today, and that impact manifested notwithstanding a large percentage of whites not participating in said oppression. The non participation of many whites, historically and currently, does not change the color of the participants.

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Old 03-04-2014, 07:06 AM
 
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So in otherwords discount inferior schools, poverty, bad neighborhoods and racism and act like it does not exist........you betcha

Could have something to do with intelligence of some.


inferior schools, most school boards are run by black educators, people with phd in education. school boards see no color but i do have no admit there might see some influence in the atlechtic support donor. but in schools themselves there is as much or more money being pump into inner cities schools.

intelligents, there is no different in intelligence from black and other races, it all in the habits of study. it not the no family,no study, no jobs, no income. its all about the morals of the black community, they could honesty change their outlook in at least ten years if they just applied themselves

one question, " will do only black community have burglar bars on their windows?"
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