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Old 02-14-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude View Post
It ended exactly as Dorner intended it to end.
How do you know how he wanted it to end?

Are you Dorner?
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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They do not have the right, or the legal authority to render such judgement. You are rationalizing acceptance of their actions.
according to several court cases, a cop can use force (even deadly force) if there is a reasonable belief that a dangerous felony has been committed by the suspect

They already knew that:
Dorner held hostages
Stole their car
Accosted a Game Warden
Stole his car.
Shot at two officers; killing one of them, injuring another
Fled to a cabin, and shot at officers from there.

Can you please tell use what isn't dangerous in any of the felonies committed above?
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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If you want to know why this country's freedom is degrading just look at everyone who actually thinks Mr. Dorner started that fire. That amount of "head in the sand" is what allows politicians to sell you a bridge that you won't end up owning.
The same people think that the Davidians started the fire in Waco.
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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Who told you that the police can use deadly force without justification?
so kidnapping, stealing a car, shooting and killing an officer while fleeing and shooting from a cabin, is not justification?
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The only person who sent him over the edge was himself. there is no one else to blame in this but him. Deliberately? Please he was caught lying about what a training officer did.
He didn't lie - she was protected.
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:19 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The liberals will find a way to blame Christopher Dorner on Bush.
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by jackmccullough View Post
Really.

You think that law enforcement firing upon two trucks that they believed contained someone who had already killed multiple innocent people in cold blood was worse than the crimes of hunting down and killing those innocent people?

Wow.
The women delivering newspapers and the surfer were innocent too.

What if they had died?
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It scares the hell out of me that people would so blindly support such an action. Do they really want our law enforcement to apply 3rd world practices?
Liberals - turning the United States into a third world country one day at a time.
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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1) you kill cops kids
2) you kill cop A
3) on the day of the event you kill another cop
4) you have sent a manifesto that details your willingness to die in a fight with police
5) you shoot at SWAT, and you are a trained SNIPER. . .and you seem very well armed.


Now I don't see how/what is so odd with an escalating response from police department. Judge/trial/jury is always a best outcome. . .but there is no reason to risk the life of one police person to get that outcome? If you are shooting, you will be shot. Its not trial/jury/judge at that point, its stopping the threat without risk to police or people.


I'm not exactly sure why this is so hard to grasp.
Starting a fire in the middle of a populated forest isn't "stopping the threat without risk to...people".
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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so kidnapping, stealing a car, shooting and killing an officer while fleeing and shooting from a cabin, is not justification?

The police were not justified in shooting the surfer or the newspaper delivery woman. As far as the cabin. I'm not at all surprised that Dorner was killed by police there. I think it would have been difficult to get him out alive. I take issue with the police burning the cabin down mainly because they did not know if Dorner was alone. They could have killed innocent people in the process. They had the place surrounded, he was not going to get away. The cops could have given the situation more time. Based on the audio of the police yelling, "burn the mother effer down" repeatedly, it sounds like they were practically frothing at the mouth in excitement at the impending opportunity to kill him.
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