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Old 08-21-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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Actually, premiums are not soaring. Why are conservatives so misinformed when it comes to health care policy and Obamacare?

Employer Health Premiums Slow for Second Straight Year - Bloomberg
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:13 PM
 
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Actually, premiums are not soaring. Why are conservatives so misinformed when it comes to health care policy and Obamacare?

Employer Health Premiums Slow for Second Straight Year - Bloomberg
I would bet you're uninformed too in addition to all of Congress and I highly doubt the President even knows half of what's in it
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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Actually, premiums are not soaring. Why are conservatives so misinformed when it comes to health care policy and Obamacare?

Employer Health Premiums Slow for Second Straight Year - Bloomberg
From your link:

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Among small businesses, 31 percent of workers pay a $2,000 deductible compared with 12 percent five years ago.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:16 PM
 
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Actually, premiums are not soaring. Why are conservatives so misinformed when it comes to health care policy and Obamacare?

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Liberals and Democrats make the mistake of thinking conservatives care about public policy.

All one has to do is listen to conservatives. Listen to Ted Cruz or Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck, or Steve King, or Rick Perry, or Michelle Bachmann, they don't talk about public policy, they speak in apocalyptic terms of being in a battle for the soul of this nation.

They don't give a damn if health insurance helps people if they think it aids their enemies by injuring America's soul.

Public policy and the success or failure of policy at this point is irrelevant to conservatives.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:17 PM
 
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When was Obamacare signed into law?
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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Liberals and Democrats make the mistake of thinking conservatives care about public policy.

All one has to do is listen to conservatives. Listen to Ted Cruz or Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck, or Steve King, or Rick Perry, or Michelle Bachmann, they don't talk about public policy, they speak in apocalyptic terms of being in a battle for the soul of this nation.

They don't give a damn if health insurance helps people if they think it aids their enemies by injuring America's soul.

Public policy and the success or failure of policy at this point is irrelevant to conservatives.
That's true, they speak in platitudes.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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Well my premiums are going from $900 to almost $1400 for family of four per month with a $7000 deductible for 2014.

And guess what? I am don't get any subsidy either.

Obamacare care hurts most for small business people who make more than 400% of poverty.

Sad thing is my AGI could be 401% of poverty and I would be paying more than 14-15% of my AGI in premiums and still no subsidy. While the guy making 400% of poverty would get close to the equivalent of $5000 in hard real earned money back to his business that I am spending.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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Among small businesses, 31 percent of workers pay a $2,000 deductible compared with 12 percent five years ago.


$3000. per person here and premiums have doubled for me and went up considerably for my employer.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:19 PM
 
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When was Obamacare signed into law?
2010 which covers the last 5 years....as I stated in my post...
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:21 PM
 
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2010 which covers the last 5 years....as I stated in my post...
Let me guess, you're not a math teacher.
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