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View Poll Results: Is one man's terrorist another man's freedom fighter
Yes 28 77.78%
No 8 22.22%
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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Terrorism requires acts of violence against unarmed/defenseless/civilian targets. The goal is to instill "terror" in the hopes of change. Terrorism is always wrong/unethical.

A freedom fighter /gorilla / etc would just be a solider who is fighting other soldiers and hard targets for a specific cause. Innocent people can be hurt (and often are) but the intention was not to hurt innocents, but attack targets that could disrupt the enemy force.

 
Old 03-08-2013, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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It's hard to argue that a radical muslim is looking for "freedom".


People get too hung up on "proper" definitions; they forget how easy it is to manipulate the English language to get dual meanings and half-truths.
 
Old 03-08-2013, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I've heard this statment repeated many times. History does seem to confirm that, even for Americans. Radical Muslims who attacked Soviet soldiers were freedom fighters, radical Muslims who attack American soldiers are terrorists. McVeigh is considered a hero to some and Luis Posada was trained by the CIA. The protaganist in the film "V" blows up buildings
It's not freedom fighting if the person's terrorist act kills innocent women and children. How in the hell can terrorist acts against the common person, murdering them, be referred to as an act of fighting for ones freedom? What freedom can the child take from the terrorist?
 
Old 03-08-2013, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It's hard to argue that a radical muslim is looking for "freedom".


People get too hung up on "proper" definitions; they forget how easy it is to manipulate the English language to get dual meanings and half-truths.
The Islamist terrorist wants to rule over people, as a tyrant who forces his will upon others thru the use of physical force, in this case, murderous acts of terror. It's not fighting for freedom, it's fighting to dominate, control, coerce and enslave people, to force them to follow their religious ideology. It takes the mind of a useful liberal idiot to refer to these people as freedom fighters.

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Old 03-08-2013, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Patriots considered George Wadhington to be a "freedom fighter", while Loyalists and King George III considered him to be a terrorist.

Does that help answer your question?
 
Old 03-08-2013, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The US invaded Iraq, were the Iraqis who were fighting against the US freedom fighters?
I'm sure a few were, but most were tyrants trying to maintain their dictatorship, and their power to rule over other people.

If a human sex trade organization was being assaulted by law enforcement, would you call the slave traders "freedom fighters" because they were tying to protect their slave trade operation?
 
Old 03-08-2013, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The U.S. has installed brutal dictatorships disguised as freedom fighters that have turned, Iran, Guatamals, Cuba, Nicaragua, Argentina, Chile, Egypt, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria...

There's a reason why people hate the U.S.

We can't seem to mind our own dang business.
 
Old 03-08-2013, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Cowboys vs. Indians.....
 
Old 03-08-2013, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The U.S. has installed brutal dictatorships disguised as freedom fighters that have turned, Iran, Guatamals, Cuba, Nicaragua, Argentina, Chile, Egypt, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria...

There's a reason why people hate the U.S.

We can't seem to mind our own dang business.
So what is the answer in your eyes, vote for Democrat presidents?
 
Old 03-10-2013, 01:31 AM
 
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Cowboys vs. Indians.....
That's a great example, because white settlers sometimes did act as terrorists against Native Americans. They drove the Native Americans off of the land they owned, rape, murdered, and pillaged, etc.

I think it's often very difficult to know the bad guys from the good guys. I have sympathy for the Syrian rebels who are fighting a repressive regime that slaughters its own citizens. But I know that if those Muslim freedom fighters do come into power themselves, they are the same ones who will turn around and oppress women with their Muslim beliefs.

I see the NRA as terrorists in some ways because they use fear-mongering and distorted lies to get people to purchase guns.
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