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Old 03-20-2013, 09:18 AM
 
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Lots of Catholics in the U.S. are liberal. The new evangelical Catholic is a new phenomena (and a bad one) in the U.S. But if you want to start talking about conservative Catholics I suggest you start with Africa and South America, with the exception of where liberation theology has taken hold.
catholics voting republican is also a relativley new phenomenon
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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The church has nothing to do with politics. I am glad that he is South American, as 45% of all Catholics are from South and Central America.

If the Pope believes in "global warming", that just means he is just as gullible as you. We do know, however, that the Pope is intelligent, which shows that some intelligent people can be fooled as well. Most intelligent people, of course, did not buy into the global warming scam. Fear not! All those who believed in global warming will deny ever "really" believing it in a few years, as the leftists are masters of revisionist history and short memories. They will probably say in a few years that "global warming" was a crazy conservative plot!
It's called global climate change & it is indeed a fact. Perhaps you should go take some classes, you'd be amazed at what you can learn.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:53 AM
 
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i thought the bulk of neo cons were either jews or fundamentalist christians ?
No. For the most part, most Jews are Democrats. Orthodox Jews tend to be Republican, but there aren't as many orthodox Jews as non-orthodox.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:54 AM
 
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catholics voting republican is also a relativley new phenomenon
Yes it is. At one time Catholic and Democrat went hand in hand. I think Catholic turned into Evangelical Lite.
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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....and thus dies this badly informed skidmark of a thread.
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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OP," neo-con" and Catholic is a diametrically opposed statement.

I am liberal, Catholic, and could care less about global warming as far as religion is concerned. But good luck with your myopia.

Politics and religion do not fit together in a neatly wrapped package. Study and research history.
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:17 PM
 
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Yes it is. At one time Catholic and Democrat went hand in hand. I think Catholic turned into Evangelical Lite.

You are wrong, Catholic didn't turn Evangelical Lite - Democrat turned Chavez.
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:20 PM
 
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No. For the most part, most Jews are Democrats. Orthodox Jews tend to be Republican, but there aren't as many orthodox Jews as non-orthodox.
well the architects of the whole neo con project were largely jewish

bill krystol
paul wolfowitz
richard perle
douglas feith

i would have thought the neo conservative wing of the GOP was still a minority , i wouldnt call romney a neo conservative , i wouldnt have called george w bush one either , cheney was , as was rumsfeld and of course john bolton
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Old 03-20-2013, 01:28 PM
 
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The church has nothing to do with politics. I am glad that he is South American, as 45% of all Catholics are from South and Central America.

If the Pope believes in "global warming", that just means he is just as gullible as you. We do know, however, that the Pope is intelligent, which shows that some intelligent people can be fooled as well. Most intelligent people, of course, did not buy into the global warming scam. Fear not! All those who believed in global warming will deny ever "really" believing it in a few years, as the leftists are masters of revisionist history and short memories. They will probably say in a few years that "global warming" was a crazy conservative plot!
Are you saying the Pope is a dope!??!

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Old 03-20-2013, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The church has nothing to do with politics. I am glad that he is South American, as 45% of all Catholics are from South and Central America.

If the Pope believes in "global warming", that just means he is just as gullible as you. We do know, however, that the Pope is intelligent, which shows that some intelligent people can be fooled as well. Most intelligent people, of course, did not buy into the global warming scam. Fear not! All those who believed in global warming will deny ever "really" believing it in a few years, as the leftists are masters of revisionist history and short memories. They will probably say in a few years that "global warming" was a crazy conservative plot!
The Catholic Church on Climate Change:

"The Catholic Church today, from the Vatican to the U.S. Conference on Catholic Bishops to individual parishes in communities across the country, works to increase awareness about climate change and its risks among lay Catholics; educates individuals, churches, schools, religious colleges and universities, and other Catholic institutions about how to cut energy use and live more sustainably; and advocates in support of legislative action by state governments, the U.S. Congress, and the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change to curb carbon emissions."

The Catholic Church and Climate Change | The Yale Forum on Climate Change & The Media

The current pope is simply reiterating what has been the church's position for many years.
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