New pope revives question: What is a 'Latino?' (Mexicans, racism, borders)

[Nonarchist]

Hispanic is what you get when you cross a Catholic with an Indian

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by Packard fan

"When it comes to ethnicity, geography can be destiny. If Pope Francis' parents had immigrated to New York City instead of Buenos Aires, he would be seen as a white Italian-American. But until he makes a definitive statement, his identity will remain subject to debate."

New pope revives question: What is a 'Latino?'

Pope Francis IS "Hispanic" since he's from Argentina tho he'd be "anglo white" if born in the US.

If he lived in the US he'd be speaking English instead of Spanish and he'd be a football fan instead of a soccer fan.

[Chimuelojones]

Originally Posted by Oldglory;28818074[B

]Actually, no.[/b] A Latino is someone who resides in Latin America. France, Spain and Italy are not Latin American countries.

You are correct about Hispanics being from Spanish ancestors. However, one may reside in Argentina but not be culturally or ethnically Hispanic. The Pope may be ethnically like his Italian parents rather than Hispanic as I don't think he has elaborated on that but he is a Latino geographically.

actually yes. dont read more than I stated. I put in very simple terms. sorry you did not understand.

please re-read my post and only read into it what I stated.

He was born in Argentina of italian decent...latino

Argentina is a Latin american conuntry with non hispanic and hispanics living there.

latin means from the "Latin" origin countries, not Itally, France, and Spain are latin american counties

I hate emotions but you deserve that one.

[Chimuelojones]

Originally Posted by Nonarchist

Hispanic is what you get when you cross a Catholic with an Indian

So what is a decendent of a jewish spaniard in the new world? Not all mestizos are of catholic/indian mix and not all hispanics are mestizos.

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by Chimuelojones

actually yes. dont read more than I stated. I put in very simple terms. sorry you did not understand.

please re-read my post and only read into it what I stated.

He was born in Argentina of italian decent...latino

Argentina is a Latin american conuntry with non hispanic and hispanics living there.

latin means from the "Latin" origin countries, not Itally, France, and Spain are latin american counties

I hate emotions but you deserve that one.

You misunderstood what I wrote. I agreed with most of the above and reiterated as such.

I don't consider Italy, France or Spain as "Latin" origin countries, however.

[Chimuelojones]

Originally Posted by Oldglory

You misunderstood what I wrote. I agreed with most of the above and reiterated as such.

I don't consider Italy, France or Spain as "Latin" origin countries, however.

They spoke latin prior to Spanish, french and Italian...they have always been considered latin origin countries...

[Nonarchist]

Originally Posted by Chimuelojones

So what is a decendent of a jewish spaniard in the new world? Not all mestizos are of catholic/indian mix and not all hispanics are mestizos.

Spaniards aren't Hispanic, they are Herpanic, after their queen.

Isabelladonna.

[mb1547]

Originally Posted by Oldglory

You misunderstood what I wrote. I agreed with most of the above and reiterated as such.

I don't consider Italy, France or Spain as "Latin" origin countries, however.

French, Spanish, Italian and Portuguese (along with a whole bunch of less frequently used languages) are all what are called "romance" languages, meaning that they evolved from vulgar Latin and have common Latin based language roots. They're structured in the same way that Latin is --very different from English in that they have things like noun genders, and very different tenses, punctuation and sentence structure than English, etc. That's what she was referring to. English is a Germanic based language instead, with some Latin based individual words.

A simple example--in English we say "the small house" In a romance language, it would be structured as "the house small."

[VTHokieFan]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Yes, he counts as a hispanic/latino, but my reply was to the person who said he would be "white hispanic" if he had been born and raised in New York. It is not true. A person born and raised on Spain (europe) is not Hispanic/Latino either, because ONLY those who originate from central or south america can be hispanic/latino. Had the pope been born and raised in NY to the same parents, he would be "Italian American". Either way he is white. Being hispanic/latino is not a reference to race.

How is a person born and raised in Spain, or Espana, or Hispania not hispanic?

[helenejen]

Originally Posted by VTHokieFan

How is a person born and raised in Spain, or Espana, or Hispania not hispanic?

Hispanic is a reference specific to the Americas.