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Old 02-07-2013, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE (via SW Virginia)
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These two are a skid mark on American political discourse and should be marginalized as such. Their ideas and policies are so destructive to this country that (thank god) for us Dr. Paul the Elder was essentially marginalized by the GOP elite...but it appears that Rand Paul has more mainstream appeal for reasons unbeknownst to me. Dr. Paul the younger needs to be marginalized just as much as his father. Both Paul the younger and elder support the laughable named "Plan to Restore America."

Their policies will destroy this country. Income inequality would be on par with South Africa and Colombia, Wall Street would be free to do whatever it wants, Companies would have zero federal accounting and reporting compliances, Air safety and traffic control would be handled by private contractors, we would have no federal funding, and the government would lose it's abilty to intervene in pending financial crisis..........I don't understand how anyone could support these lunatics.

Everyone knows the facade of Dr. Paul(s) but I think it helps to really SEE their positions laid out to understand just what people are considering.

Here is a brief summary of their positions:
-The elimination of the Dept of Education, Interior, Commerce, Energy, and HUD)
-privatize the FAA and TSA
-slash the federal workforce by 10%
-cut the budgets for all federal branches
-lower the corporate tax rate to 15% despite most fortune 100 countries located in the US paying what amount to an effective rate of 12%
-allow companies to repatriate capital with essentailly no taxation (hello offshore stockpiles)
-permanently extend all Bush tax cuts
-eliminate ALL capital gaines taxes
-sell all federal assets (public parks...thing of the past.)
-repeal obamacare, sarbanes-oxley, and Dodd-Frank...(Enron???)
-conduct a full audit of the Fed (It's audited by indepedent agencies annually anyway)
-deregulate wall street Entirely (really?)
-Phase out Social Security
-Ending the Federal Reserce and our Fiat currency in lieu of the Gold Standard
-Eliminate FEMA and all federal disaser relief.....Sorry Sandy victims...you're on your own.
-Zero federal medical research. (4 billion less for cancer, 3.5 billion less for AIDS, 1.42 billion less for Heart Disease, and over 5 billion less for other major medical issues)
-Repeal of the act that mandate that physicians stablize a patient in the ER if they lack the ability to pay.....(I know that it is a problem but are we seriously going to watch someone die in a waiting room?)
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:22 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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What is poison? The Status Quo. Chosing your poison doesn't matter if the end result is the same.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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I don't see anything about their positions to disagree with. More power to them!
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:25 AM
 
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Ron Paul-Idiot i agree, rand paul is showing some potential
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE (via SW Virginia)
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Ron Paul-Idiot i agree, rand paul is showing some potential
Rand believes exactly as his father does...he may try to moderate his message to become more popular with the mainstream, but make no mistake if he is given consideration his true colors will come out.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:30 AM
 
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Rand believes exactly as his father does...he may try to moderate his message to become more popular with the mainstream, but make no mistake if he is given consideration his true colors will come out.
yea but i think we dislike them for different reasons. What turns me away from Ron Paul(and libertarians in general) is his foreign policy. Rand Paul seems less naive about that
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:32 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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newberry is scared...if you scared just say you scared! LOL...The fact you think Rand is anything like his father is laughable. Ron never compromised his principles to advance his political career Rand obviously has and will.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE (via SW Virginia)
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newberry is scared...if you scared just say you scared! LOL...The fact you think Rand is anything like his father is laughable. Ron never compromised his principles to advance his political career Rand obviously has and will.
Well... when you're right you're right...I am scared of him and his popularity. His policies are destructive and I don't want to see this country dismantled by an idiot that would prefer the US be reduced to 50 countries.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:36 AM
 
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I am very much disappointed with the Pauls. they both want a corporate tax rate of 15%?????

It should be ZERO.
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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I see some people still believe in the Democrat and Republican parties.

If its outside of the mainstream, it must be wrong!

Do these people not understand that they have been conditioned?
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