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If you want to claim rights, you'd better know what they are. The school district writes policy vaguely to cover their actions. Profanity, violence, and discriminatory messages are subjective terms. If a teacher questions your actions and give you an order, that did not give that young man the right to disobey an request or order. The young man was arrested for disobeying an order not for his gun shirt.
I see - so if a teacher orders the class to write on the board 100 times "Barack Obama is the greatest president in the history of the United States and Republicans are evil" - then the students must do it or face suspension and arrest?
I see - so if a teacher orders the class to write on the board 100 times "Barack Obama is the greatest president in the history of the United States and Republicans are evil" - then the student must do it or face suspension and arrest?
Got it.
What does that have to do with anything that's going on in this thread?
While I think pressing charges was over-the-top; the kid should have just removed the shirt when asked. You go to school to learn; it's not the forum to express your opinions. I don't like that people have this mentality of "freedom means I can wear/do/say whatever I want regardless of where I am"...
I doubt that the student wore the shirt to send a message.
It probally is just a shirt that he has and wears all the time at home.
I can picture him in a rush to get dressed for school and picking up the first shirt on the pile in his room.
This only became a first amendment issue when the teacher made it one.
What does that have to do with anything that's going on in this thread?
Because the poster to whom I responded said that a teacher can order a student to do almost anything - and that opens up the possibility for political indoctrination and intimidation - which is in fact what took place in this incident.
I doubt that the student wore the shirt to send a message.
It probally is just a shirt that he has and wears all the time at home.
I can picture him in a rush to get dressed for school and picking up the first shirt on the pile in his room.
This only became a first amendment issue when the teacher made it one.
Then if he wasn't trying to send a message, it really shouldn't have been a problem when he was asked to take it off. The way I was taught is you don't argue with the teacher; you do what they ask and then if you think you were wronged you tell your parents and they will speak to the teacher.
Of course when I was growing up we didn't call the local news every time we felt we were slighted.
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Originally Posted by Harrier
Because the poster to whom I responded said that a teacher can order a student to do almost anything - and that opens up the possibility for political indoctrination and intimidation - which is in fact what took place in this incident.
No that's not what the poster said and even if they had said that I'm pretty sure you can logically understand the point they were trying to make. If the teacher says your clothing violates the dress code and asks/tells you to remove it; you follow the directions.
What policy would the teach be enforcing by asking a student to write your silly sentence on the board?
Well the exact policy isn't listed in the article, but I'm sure that it doesn't specifically mention guns. They will probably try to say it falls under "displaying violence" messages.
I see - so if a teacher orders the class to write on the board 100 times "Barack Obama is the greatest president in the history of the United States and Republicans are evil" - then the students must do it or face suspension and arrest?
Then if he wasn't trying to send a message, it really shouldn't have been a problem when he was asked to take it off.
What was he supposed to wear?
I guess the left secretly wants to make us all nudists.
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