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Old 05-03-2013, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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After the story of Tucson, Colorado, Virginia Tech, Adam Lanza, the five year old shooting his sister,etc., it is high time we have an honest conversation about how to avoid such situations. I have no issue with people with guns, so long as they are sane. I will confess that all the people who I have met who obsess over guns seem to me to have "small man complex," but that alone is not enough to restrict gun (or monster truck) sales. I have no evidence such fetishists actually kill people.

So the question remains. What is causing so many people to do so much carnage? Is it mental health, the access to large magazine weapons, the paranoid conspiracy narratives? Whatever it is, we should put bipartisan research (left, right, center, gun owners and non, law enforcement representatives, peaceniks, etc.) into this, AND HEED THE RESULTS.

One of the things I find personally upsetting is that gun owners allow the self-serving weasels of the NRA to speak for them. They are lobbyists for crying out loud! They don't serve the public good, and they have no place in setting this policy. I have read so many threads by gun lovers who cook up a phony victim narrative that is idiotic. The rest of society is upset over the gun violence, but no one wants to steal your guns. We just want a safer society. And no one is going to get to cram their view point down everyone's throat. It is not a zero sum game, but an honest challenge for our society to address honestly and without paranoia.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Background checks on pools? No one needs a pool.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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Can we stop with the gun fetishism and demonization already? Give it a rest already, OP. The media long since moved on and so have the politicians. There's dozens of topics with the same premise as yours already
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:46 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Yet ANOTHER diatribe from a paranoid gun-hater who keeps losing arguments, and so tries to couch his same old prejudices, insults, and fears as "questions" and "an honest challenge"?

You people really need some new material. This stuff is SO old and worn.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:46 PM
 
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Background checks on pools? No one needs a pool.
Especially so semi-automatic pools where the pump can come on unexpectantly at any time without a moments notice.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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Nobody cares about the gun violence for real, they just want to disarm the public. If you guys were REALLY concerned about it, you'd let stop and frisk do it's job, but you don't and won't. There are many more blacks and minorities killing way more innocent people than any you had mentioned. What's your plan for dealing with that? NOTHING!
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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I did get real. Ordered an AR 15 a couple of days ago.
6.8 Rock River Arms
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Can we stop with the gun fetishism and demonization already? Give it a rest already, OP. The media long since moved on and so have the politicians. There's dozens of topics with the same premise as yours already
Did you see the look on crazy Joe's face afterwards?



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Old 05-03-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Especially so semi-automatic pools where the pump can come on unexpectantly at any time without a moments notice.
The NPA is an evil corporate lobby supporting paranoid right-wing pool nuts.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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The "get real on guns" point should be a sensible one. But so many, apparently including the OP, fail to recognize that in spite of the sensational shooting sprees we have seen over the last decade, murders, including those involving firearms are at the lowest rates in almost 50 years. The US is safer today than it was in the 1960s, when there were far fewer guns.

I support changes to better identify mentally ill people so we can prevent them from buying a gun. I support enforcement (first) and stiffer penalties for "straw" purchases. People who can pass background checks should not be buying guns for people who can't.

I don't support magazine limits, gun bans based on cosmetic features, or expanded registration of gun ownership. They will do nothing to reduce deaths.
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