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Old 06-06-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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If you're addressing Kreutz, the article specifically states "... among the first."

If you're addressing me, I don't know how I could have implied the newspaper was lying.
Don't mind him.


And good for Iowa City, drones violate civil liberties, period.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:49 AM
 
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Don't mind him.


And good for Iowa City, drones violate civil liberties, period.
WHAT is with this obsession with drones?

How do drones violate civil-liberties anymore than a LEO in a fixed-wing aircraft, helicopter, or a surveillance van parked at the curb?
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:51 AM
 
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WHAT is with this obsession with drones?

How do drones violate civil-liberties anymore than a LEO in a fixed-wing aircraft, helicopter, or a surveillance van parked at the curb?
They don't. Its just a lot easier to spy on the populace when you can buy a dozen drones or one helicopter.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:53 AM
 
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WHAT is with this obsession with drones?

How do drones violate civil-liberties anymore than a LEO in a fixed-wing aircraft, helicopter, or a surveillance van parked at the curb?
Spoken like a true obamabot.

You have heard of unreasonable searches? Apparently not. Just open your doors up and let big bro come on in burdell. You got nothin to hide right? That is the argument you government lovers always use.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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Spoken like a true obamabot.

You have heard of unreasonable searches? Apparently not. Just open your doors up and let big bro come on in burdell. You got nothin to hide right? That is the argument you government lovers always use.


Let me try to make this simple enough for even you to understand.

Law enforcement has been using aircraft for surveillance for decades.

Just HOW in your little world is doing the same with unmanned aircraft any different?
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:59 AM
 
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They don't. Its just a lot easier to spy on the populace when you can buy a dozen drones or one helicopter.
That's my point, if anything it's the surveillance that should be objected to, not whether the pilot happens to be in the air or on the ground.

And I'm not sure about the law but would have to guess if you're doing something in plain view under public use airspace you probably have little/no expectation of privacy.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:59 AM
 
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Do you even realize the capabilities of drones? I don't think you do. Would you mind your neighbor hovering a drone over your backyard for 16 straight hours looking into your home? Would that bother you any at all? Or do you have nothing to hide? Why not knock your walls out and let everybody see everything you do Burdell. That is what your condoning here.
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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That's my point, if anything it's the surveillance that should be objected to, not whether the pilot happens to be in the air or on the ground.

And I'm not sure about the law but would have to guess if you're doing something in plain view under public use airspace you probably have little/no expectation of privacy.
Bullcrap. Police need a reason to come search my property. You actually trust these people who violate our rights on a daily basis to follow rules when employing drones? Unreal.
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:10 AM
 
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I take it you've never been to Iowa City? It's home to the University of Iowa, and it's one of the most liberal college towns in the midwest....
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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I played golf there two weeks ago. Attend many a squakeye game. I don't know any liberals who live there. Democrats yes but no liberals. Democrats pray and hunt. Liberals scream there is no God and eat tofu. Big difference.
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