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Old 06-20-2013, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Deep Dirty South
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The Brits were horrid to the Irish.
True. Or the Engish gov't at any rate.

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It's more nationalistic than anything else.
Yeah, but the Dark Ages infantile superstitious religious BS and nonsense certainly didn't help. It rarely does on a large scale.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:15 PM
 
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News is reporting that in Obama's recent speech, he called Catholic schools divisive. What happened to religious freedom? Oh, that's right, the government thinks citizens don't have rights any

more.Obama offends Catholics in the UK, says religious schools are divisive - BizPac Review
Yeah FOX Spews, in particular Sean Hannity left the part about Protestant schools out as well, your link must be a right wingnut blog.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Closing Catholic schools will only make the problems worse there. The Irish Catholics already feel the Brits have their boot on their necks.

England took over Ireland centuries ago and they are still fighting over it in some places. The Brits were horrid to the Irish. It's more nationalistic than anything else.
If you believe in segregation then go right ahead and criticize Obama, just be up front and state you believe in segregation. If you don't believe in segregation and believe that we should work towards integrating Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland, so they can go to school with, work with, socialize with, communicate with, etc with each other then you should have no problems with his comments.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:25 AM
 
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News is reporting that in Obama's recent speech, he called Catholic schools divisive. What happened to religious freedom? Oh, that's right, the government thinks citizens don't have rights any
sounds about right to me, these type of schools ARE divisive, bigoted and hypocritical.

what is the point of them?

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Old 06-21-2013, 01:46 AM
 
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If you believe in segregation then go right ahead and criticize Obama, just be up front and state you believe in segregation. If you don't believe in segregation and believe that we should work towards integrating Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland, so they can go to school with, work with, socialize with, communicate with, etc with each other then you should have no problems with his comments.
Well if Protestants would like to come to Catholic schools then they can and learn all about the Catholic religion. Don't think they would want to though. It very important for Catholics to send their children to Catholic school to learn the religion. Obama doesn't get this and I don't expect he ever will.
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:34 AM
 
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good on Obama then!

Catholic shools are just breeding grounds for bigots.
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:45 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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The topic is a false narrative which is being spread by certain segments of the American press and media. The Irish themselves don't appear to be offended by Obama's comments nor do they appear to believe what was claimed in the OP and by title of this thread.

It seems to me those be divisive are those that are spreading this false narrative.
Barack Obama is part Irish.

His ancestors hailed from Moneygall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xkw8ip43Vk
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:52 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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What indication do you have that Obama offended someone in Ireland or Northern Ireland. The Irish are acutely aware of the issue. The claims of offense are coming from certain segments of the American media.

Borders and Barriers-The Belfast Peace Lines – Richard Wainwright Photography

In many cases, people who live just meters apart, divided by a 20 ft high multi layered barrier have never met or even have the desire to meet each other. Segregation permeates all areas of life both physically and psychologically, from housing where over 95% of social housing is either Catholic or Protestant to education where only around 5% of children attend integrated schools. Whilst most of the violence of the 90′s has stopped, rioting in flashpoints still does occur and virtually all residents who live next to the peacelines and interface areas do not want the walls to come down. At night, gates are closed to both traffic and pedestrians, effectively cutting off Protestant from Catholic areas. They feel safer, at least physiologically, with these physical barriers intact which they say they now hardly even notice.
And you know this exactly how living on an island in San Francisco Bay just west of Oakland?
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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good on Obama then!

Catholic shools are just breeding grounds for bigots.
Like liberals.
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Old 06-21-2013, 03:18 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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good on Obama then!

Catholic shools are just breeding grounds for bigots.
Oh Please! Obama simply wants to have children taught at government schools.
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