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Old 04-10-2014, 12:22 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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A Federal Judge granted an emergency request to force Indiana for recognize the marriage between two women. One has cancer and the court petition was filed to force the state to accurately reflect their status on a death certificate and to ensure federal survivor benefits are intact and that their children can be raised by the surviving spouse.

Judge grants request to force Indiana to recognize couple's same-sex marriage

 
Old 04-10-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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A Federal Judge granted an emergency request to force Indiana for recognize the marriage between two women. One has cancer and the court petition was filed to force the state to accurately reflect their status on a death certificate and to ensure federal survivor benefits are intact and that their children can be raised by the surviving spouse.

Judge grants request to force Indiana to recognize couple's same-sex marriage
I'm not sure why Indiana doesn't just ignore the judge. At some point, someone will just do that, since these judges just try to impose their own personal views on everyone.
 
Old 04-10-2014, 12:30 PM
 
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Sooner or later a state is simply going to call the federal government out on this benefits thing.

The federal government created SS and the other one thousand or whatever benefits gays claim married persons are entitled to; therefore it is entirely within their power to alter how said things are awarded.
 
Old 04-10-2014, 12:33 PM
 
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A Federal Judge granted an emergency request to force Indiana for recognize the marriage between two women. One has cancer and the court petition was filed to force the state to accurately reflect their status on a death certificate and to ensure federal survivor benefits are intact and that their children can be raised by the surviving spouse.

Judge grants request to force Indiana to recognize couple's same-sex marriage
Anther case "social Justice forcing states to accept make exception for the 2 %. Wouldn't a civil union or a Will and or, a good lawyer fix this?

To Call IT Marriage?
 
Old 04-10-2014, 12:44 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Anther case "social Justice forcing states to accept make exception for the 2 %. Wouldn't a civil union or a Will and or, a good lawyer fix this?

To Call IT Marriage?
Well, actually, no. Neither a lawyer nor a will can grant a survivor a Social Security survivor benefit. Only a marriage can do that. Even civil unions (in states that have them) are not recognized by the federal government as marriages for Social Security purposes.
 
Old 04-10-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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Anther case "social Justice forcing states to accept make exception for the 2 %. Wouldn't a civil union or a Will and or, a good lawyer fix this?

To Call IT Marriage?
It's civil rights, just like letting minorities and inter-racial couples marry.

A lawyer cannot grant survivor benefits.

I have been hearing this BS about civil unions being the same once they are enacted...yet it never seems to be enacted with the same rights as marriage. We have a legal system that works just fine for 2 consenting adults and there is no reason to keep people from entering in to one because they are the same sex...as there wasn't because people were different races.
 
Old 04-10-2014, 01:47 PM
 
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It's civil rights, just like letting minorities and inter-racial couples marry.
If that's the case, then polygamy and pedophilia are also protected.
 
Old 04-10-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Well, actually, no. Neither a lawyer nor a will can grant a survivor a Social Security survivor benefit. Only a marriage can do that. Even civil unions (in states that have them) are not recognized by the federal government as marriages for Social Security purposes.
Actually, they are. My partner and I live in Colorado, where there are Civil Unions that grant all the rights of marriage at the state level. We got legally married in California, so we get all the Federal benefits of marriage, and Colorado grants us the Civil Union benefits based on our marriage license from California.

I would think the couple in Indiana could go get married in a state where it's legal and then the surviving partner would get the SS benefit because it's a Federal benefit, not state. The Federal government now recognizes same sex marriage in any state as long as you get married in a state where it's legal. It doesn't matter to the Feds that you live in a state where it isn't legal. You just don't get any state benefits of marriage.
 
Old 04-10-2014, 01:48 PM
 
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A Federal Judge granted an emergency request to force Indiana for recognize the marriage between two women. One has cancer and the court petition was filed to force the state to accurately reflect their status on a death certificate and to ensure federal survivor benefits are intact and that their children can be raised by the surviving spouse.

Judge grants request to force Indiana to recognize couple's same-sex marriage
And that is it in a nutshell, it's being "FORCED" on the people. It's why this gay agenda is seeing so much hostility and push back.

Why not FORCE the state to recognize same-sex unions, or domestic partnerships? Why force a cultural and societal change against the will of the people?

Is this the function of the courts, to force the people to adopt personal ideological and social preferences of the judge?
 
Old 04-10-2014, 01:50 PM
 
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And that is it in a nutshell, it's being "FORCED" on the people. It's why this gay agenda is seeing so much hostility and push back.
Who is being forced into marrying someone of the same sex?
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