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Old 06-28-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Originally Posted by Dale Cooper View Post
We do know with 100% certainty that the confrontation did not take place at Brandy's house, which is supposedly where Trayvon was when talking to DeeDee.

Why does this keep having to be repeated?

George did not follow Tryvon to Brandy's house, kill him, then drag him back to Jenna's house.

Such a simple thing for even simple-minded people to understand.

It doesn't matter one whit what George was doing in Jenna's yard. He was likely going back to his truck but let's make up stuff, just for fun: He could have been watering her bushes. Maybe he was planning to mow her yard. Paint her porch. Peek in her window. Masturbate behind the tree. The fact is Trayvon ended up there by walking/skipping/tiptoeing/pogo-sticking there on his own two feet. He's the one who followed and confronted George.

All the foolish people who keep harping that George didn't have the right to follow Trayvon seem to be forgetting that at one point, the tables turned and Trayvon followed George. And then whooped up on him.

Good riddance.
Not forgetting that at all. Not at all.
But some of you keep trying to justify GZ's actions and only demonize TM's actions. As I have said countless times GZ may very well have been afraid for his life.
The situation was created by 1 man pursuing another. The tables may have turned and TM returned the favor.
They obviously met and had an altercation resulting in a fight.
I have never disputed this fact.
What is in dispute is GZ's version of events and where he claimed it all went down.
I am all for supporting a man involved in a good shoot. Hell I would even support a man chasing an intruder down the street and shooting him in the back.
Just because GZ may have had a right to follow whomever he wanted doesn't make it right. Following someone around at night is inviting a confrontation.
I may have the right to stare at someones 16 year old daughter but that doesn't make it right. If a Po'ed dad slugged me for it I would pretty much accept it as my own fault.

 
Old 06-28-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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As long as the nose was not deviated, there is no real benefit of an x-ray to the nose... You're not going to cast it and you don't need to reset it... The diagnosis can be made by swelling and tenderness to the exam. Pitting edema is usually noted. There isn't much to be done in the way of treatment and it isn't life threatening..
 
Old 06-28-2013, 03:50 PM
 
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this whole thing is bull shi^
the state's star wittiness has lied so many times it is laughable
how many times did she change her story??
and I love the term
"creepy assed cracker"
yea, what a swell guy
don't see anyone being outraged over that racist comment
it is okay for black folks to use that kind of foul talk
I am sick of the whole thing
 
Old 06-28-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by ellemint View Post
She clearly did not state whether or not she thought he had a broken nose. She noted that the nose was straight, and not deviated.
She said in her report and on the stand that it was 'likely broken.' She can't be sure without an x-ray.

Does it really matter ? If his nose was 'broken' you'd say there's no 'proof' it happened from tm punching him.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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Curiously, there was a mention by the PA about GZ having been seeing a Psychologist. Bernie brought it up again in re-direct, but that was it. It must have been something regarding weight loss or something benign like that or the Prosecution would have been all over it.

Unfortunately, though, the jury did hear that mention. I wonder if they will hear more about it from the defense to explain it away.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 03:52 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by Dale Cooper View Post
She based her entire exam on his complaints, and it's clear he's not much of a whiner when it comes to injuries. He didn't want to go to a doctor and didn't want further tests.

She clearly said she could not determine other significant injuries because all he complained about was the lacerations.

She recommended further exam, but he declined.

I can understand that. I personally would have to bleed in the street before I dragged myself to a doctor. I just don't do doctors well. I'm not fond of medical whiners and hypochondriacs. And it's pretty common knowledge that a lot of men also don't care much for going to doctors. Their wives have to practically drag them.
She didn't recommend further exam. She told him to get his nose checked by a specialist.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Pa
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you don't know what skittles was really doing so you choose to pretend he was an innocent child...he should have kept his hands to himself...like all children are taught...
How do you know who touched who first?

You assume a great deal. Please show me the post where I describe TM as an innocent child? You can't because it never happened.

Why defend a wanna be like GZ with such zeal? He gives all of us gun owners a bad name.He is exactly who gives the anti-gun nuts a poster child.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 03:53 PM
 
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Hid nose was not broken, and he knew it that is proably why he did not go to the ER, unless there was was something else in his system that he did not want anyone to know about.
I've suspected that he, tm, and former prosecutor Wolfinger shared a little something in the truck that night.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: #
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Originally Posted by georgia dem View Post
this whole thing is bull shi^
the state's star wittiness has lied so many times it is laughable
how many times did she change her story??
and I love the term
"creepy assed cracker"
yea, what a swell guy
don't see anyone being outraged over that racist comment
it is okay for black folks to use that kind of foul talk
I am sick of the whole thing
So, in other words even though the rules were different for blacks from 1776 to 1968 for everything from drinking water at a fountain to being counted as full people to voting, it's just ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGEOUS that the rules are different for a few racist words from circa 1995 until now.

You are sickened quite easily.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 03:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow View Post
And she did agree that based on her expertise that the photo of Zimmerman in the back of the police car lead her to believe that he had a broken nose.
Yes, based on the photo, which made an area of swelling on the right-hand side of his nose look like it could be bone. But when she saw him in person,, and she touch his nose, she said his nose was straight. I don't know if she actually said "his nose was not broken" though.
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