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Old 06-28-2013, 08:24 PM
 
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agreed. If you have 3 bad guys facing you and no where to run I would say that justifies unloading the 45...
I hope you said that in sarcasm. Otherwise you are the kind of person who would not be very welcome in my neighborhood.

That said I have had a CWP since 87 and carry every day, and I would avoid such a confrontation that you described. Move away, and live for another day.

 
Old 06-28-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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So if I'm coming at you in a dark alley with a large ax threatening to kill your wife and yourself, you are 100% in the right to terminate the threat ?

Just thought I'd throw that out, I know the answer. My azz would be dead.

That's self defense without injuries.
But there would be proof that the other person was armed, the presence of the axe and their DNA on the handle. If the person was unarmed, you would have a harder time justifying self-defense.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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You can't just shoot to death an unarmed stranger outside of your own home, unless you have some strong evidence that your life was in danger, or you were at risk of bodily harm. Just saying that you thought it was isn't sufficient.
TY for that info. I was figuring to go outside, shoot the 1st stranger I saw, and claim self defense.

If you accidentally bump into me, I come at you with a knife, you backbackback up, and finally shoot me. No injuries, still justifiable. Sure, it'd be better for you if there are witnesses, a video, but you've acted in legally justifiable self defense.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 08:27 PM
 
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Morally no. But dead men don't talk. Use some common sense when discussing this subject. I'm very armed and would never consider the thought of just shooting someone who wandered onto my property. And I don't know of anyone who would.
I assumed we were talking about out in public, not on your property.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 08:27 PM
 
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So if I'm coming at you in a dark alley with a large ax threatening to kill your wife and yourself, you are 100% in the right to terminate the threat ?

Just thought I'd throw that out, I know the answer. My azz would be dead.

That's self defense without injuries.
Well if I couldn't EASILY avoid you, yes you would be dead. I'm awfully good with my Kimber.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 08:27 PM
 
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Actually, I wish that Trayvon Martin had been armed so that he could have stood his ground on equal footing with that nut Zimmerman.
Me too. I guess some here believe that threatening someone unarmed with a gun is a right as long as the threatener is white and the threatenee is African-American.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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Without any proof that would just be a license to murder. See above.
In both states all that is required to take leathal action is to be fearful for your life. In Texas, you can even take leathal action to protect your property...
 
Old 06-28-2013, 08:29 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Well if I couldn't EASILY avoid you, yes you would be dead. I'm awfully good with my Kimber.
The point being people here are saying you must have an injury to use self defense which is not true.

It's the threat of physical harm and fists can be used as a weapon in that threat.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 08:29 PM
 
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Lets not forget, that he wasnt even a cracker. He was hispanic. Gee, that fact sure seems to get away from you liberals. I wonder why...
Ahhh a whole wheat cracker!
 
Old 06-28-2013, 08:31 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Me too. I guess some here believe that threatening someone unarmed with a gun is a right as long as the threatener is white and the threatenee is African-American.
I've read almost all 4000 posts and believe you're the first person to come up with this crap.
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