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Old 06-28-2013, 12:57 AM
 
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that is not what I said. since you ignore that no one on who believes in pro-choice supported Gosnell, you are arguing a straw man.

but that is all you anti-women folk like to do. logical fallacies is all that can rely on.

The state knew of Gosnells atrocities. They failed to protect these women. I also blame the pro-life and pro-choice groups who stood idly by and didn't force the state to do something.
The pro-life people were outside his clinic praying for him to stop hurting women. They could not break in and close it. Now the government want pro-life people to stop praying in front of clinics so just who wants the Gosnells to continue hurting women?

People reported him 17 times. How many times must these doctors be reported?

 
Old 06-28-2013, 12:58 AM
 
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Precisely----the state did NOTHING.
So, why are you blaiming women, instead of the doctor (Gosnell) and the State (for not enforcing their laws)?


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So getting an abortion is like going to a dermatologist and you say women are lied to by pro-life people.
again, you fail at logical arguments.

OUt patient clinics are NOT hospitals. There are different types of regulations for clinics and hospitals. Since abortions are performed at out-patient clinics, the regulations in place are enough to make sure that the clinics are following the law. The "laws" proposed by states that are trying to circumvent roe v wade, are putting ADDED restrictions that are UNNECESSARY to the procedures (aka requiring bigger rooms, and like the bill above, requiring them to purchase unnecessary medical devices).
 
Old 06-28-2013, 12:59 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Funny how certain people never want to shine a light on the horrors of childbirth.....and the sharp instruments that may have to be used to cut a woman wide open.

Why is no one demanding that these women be told of the worst case scenarios that can befall them if they carry a pregnancy to term?

Don't want these women given THAT information, do we?
 
Old 06-28-2013, 12:59 AM
 
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Ummm, no. It is people like you who support Gosnell.

After all, you are the ones who are fighting tooth and nail to drive abortion back underground.....where doctors like Gosnell will thrive.
His clinic was underground? What the hell are you talking about? Oh that's right you don't even know never mind.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 01:00 AM
 
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Liberals prefer to stay in the dark.

The light blinds them - like rats.

Harrier's cat is a conservative.

She is a proficient hunter - and sleeping on Harrier's lap right now.

She is pro-life.

the only people living in the dark are Pro-lifers (aka women haters). Thinkgin that any anti-abortion law is going to stop abortion.

No, abortion will happen no matter what, and laws like the one in the OP will only drive women to seek back alley abortions like the ones done prior to Roe V Wade, thereby putting MORE women in danger.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 01:00 AM
 
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why would I support a murderer?

Do you support your God, since he is the biggest murderer of all?



who is "you folks". You mean pro-choice people who found Gosnell as reprehensible as any other murderer?

I find Gosnell to be as reprehensible as the republicans who authored the bill (of which you refuse to discuss).



We did not create him.

Maybe this concept is hard for you to understand, but human beings have a thing called free will. They choose for themselves the actions they take in life, and certain actions are reprehensible to society

Gosnell chose ON his own, pressured by NO one, but by only his greed and self righteousness, that he played "God" over women who didn't know better, or was bound to a system that didn't afford them to make a better choice in doctor. HE preyed on the weak, and succeeded because the SYSTEM that was supposed to protect women against asshats like Gosnell, failed beyond comprehension.


And speaking of murders; why do you support your "God" when "he" is responsible for more deaths that any abortionist, and "HE" is the one that "created" Gosnell?
Newsflash. God creates life so he can take it, only God. Problem now is too many people are playing God.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 01:00 AM
 
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why would I support a murderer?

Do you support your God, since he is the biggest murderer of all?



who is "you folks". You mean pro-choice people who found Gosnell as reprehensible as any other murderer?

I find Gosnell to be as reprehensible as the republicans who authored the bill (of which you refuse to discuss).



We did not create him.

Maybe this concept is hard for you to understand, but human beings have a thing called free will. They choose for themselves the actions they take in life, and certain actions are reprehensible to society

Gosnell chose ON his own, pressured by NO one, but by only his greed and self righteousness, that he played "God" over women who didn't know better, or was bound to a system that didn't afford them to make a better choice in doctor. HE preyed on the weak, and succeeded because the SYSTEM that was supposed to protect women against asshats like Gosnell, failed beyond comprehension.


And speaking of murders; why do you support your "God" when "he" is responsible for more deaths that any abortionist, and "HE" is the one that "created" Gosnell?
It appears you are faltering. Try again. Blaming God? lol
 
Old 06-28-2013, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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They thrive now.
No.....they do not.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Yes, the truth does hurt. Should women stay in the dark and have no truth on what abortion is???


What truth? That someone could actually write that they hope a woman/girl getting a transvaginal
ultrasound "with blades" is chilling, sadistic and evil. The "truth" isn't something coming from such posts.
 
Old 06-28-2013, 01:02 AM
 
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You support abortion.
abortion is not murder.

gosnell was a murderer since HE violated law, and "aborted" fetuses past the 22 week ban. He is a murderer since at 22 weeks there is a 33% chance that the fetus is viable.
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