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Yeah and adding 11 to 30 million newly legalized cheap foreign workers to the legal labor pools is really going to crush our unemployed. Good plan Obama. Real good plan.
I guess if it gets bad enough, Americans can go do those hard work low paying jobs the illegals will abandon the minute they're rewarded with legal status and can grab up all the nicer jobs. How about Americans picking lettuce in 120 degree heat for $5 an hour now that the illegals won't have to do that kind of work.
Nearly everyone has struggled in the wake of the Great Recession, but young Americans have suffered the most. While others have slowly returned to work, the unemployment rate for Americans ages 16–24 stands at 16.2 percent, more than double the national rate of unemployment. And even when this group eventually starts earning a paycheck, the impact of their unemployment will follow them for years. According to a new analysis by the Center for American Progress, young Americans will lose a staggering $20 billion in earnings over the next decade.
Today’s young Americans face the worst employment prospects in recent history. What’s more, trends in employment and unemployment rates since World War II indicate that the labor market is becoming even less friendly to young workers.
Yeah and adding 11 to 30 million newly legalized cheap foreign workers to the legal labor pools is really going to crush our unemployed. Good plan Obama. Real good plan.
I guess if it gets bad enough, Americans can go do those hard work low paying jobs the illegals will abandon the minute they're rewarded with legal status and can grab up all the nicer jobs. How about Americans picking lettuce in 120 degree heat for $5 an hour now that the illegals won't have to do that kind of work.
Nearly everyone has struggled in the wake of the Great Recession, but young Americans have suffered the most. While others have slowly returned to work, the unemployment rate for Americans ages 16–24 stands at 16.2 percent, more than double the national rate of unemployment. And even when this group eventually starts earning a paycheck, the impact of their unemployment will follow them for years. According to a new analysis by the Center for American Progress, young Americans will lose a staggering $20 billion in earnings over the next decade.
Today’s young Americans face the worst employment prospects in recent history. What’s more, trends in employment and unemployment rates since World War II indicate that the labor market is becoming even less friendly to young workers.
Most are working now...wouldn't that make their transition to lawful status easier. If someone is working a meat packing plant and is illegal, wouldn't the employer welcome keeping a good trained worker and make their position legal and permanent?
There is no indication that 11 million people will be on the move on day one of signing of CIR into law.
Most are working now...would that make there transition to lawful status easier. If someone is working a meat packing plant and is illegal, wouldn't the employer welcome keeping a good trained worker and make their position legal?
There is no indication that 11 million people will be on the move on day one of signing of CIR into law.
They will become part of the legal labor pool. If that meat packing company doesn't pay enough to attract legal workers, then the newly legalized will be out of there and new shipments of illegals will be on their way.
Seriously how many of your neighbors with the dirt cheap live-in nannies and cheap landscapers are going to want to start paying them minimum wage with overtime pay, vacation pay, workman's comp, social security taxes and so on? They'll just let them go, but the illegal once rewarded with legal status will no longer want to work for dirt pay, and start taking jobs at stores and any kind of jobs Americans like.
They will become part of the legal labor pool. If that meat packing company doesn't pay enough to attract legal workers, then the newly legalized will be out of there and new shipments of illegals will be on their way.
Seriously how many of your neighbors with the dirt cheap live-in nannies and cheap landscapers are going to want to start paying them minimum wage with overtime pay, vacation pay, workman's comp, social security taxes and so on? They'll just let them go, but the illegal once rewarded with legal status will no longer want to work for dirt pay, and start taking jobs at stores and any kind of jobs Americans like.
That is what these folks just can't figure out for some reason. Could be brain damage I don't know. When you do nothing to shut down the influx of illegals they just think they will magically stop coming when this bill is passed apparently. If anything it will give folks more incentive to try and get here because hey if they stay around long enough they will be granted citizenship too. I mean it's only fair and all.
This would help teenagers get legal employment more than anything.
Minimum wage laws that eliminate jobs and illegals taking existing jobs leaves the teen with one choice to make money: sell drugs. This is particularly true in poor neighborhoods and black urban areas.
If you support workplace laws and "immigration reform" you support racism, because that is what it is.
But blacks don't vote in high enough numbers to matter politically, so who cares. Democrats are free to pass all manner of laws that destroy blacks and then blame it on the rich white guy in the suburbs. The non-thinking vote for them anyway.
That is what these folks just can't figure out for some reason. Could be brain damage I don't know. When you do nothing to shut down the influx of illegals they just think they will magically stop coming when this bill is passed apparently. If anything it will give folks more incentive to try and get here because hey if they stay around long enough they will be granted citizenship too. I mean it's only fair and all.
Yep.
If I was a poor person in Mexico, China or Central America I would be more likely to get here if this passes.
Also Obama has promised the illegals "family reunification" so all 11-30 million illegals getting in on this amnesty can start bringing in family members who want to be here for all those great paying American jobs -- and they will also be legal and won't have to take the low paying hard work jobs.
For those, there will be more illegals brought in -- employers used to paying $5 an hour for crappy jobs aren't going to suddenly get legal -- for one there is no punishment for those employers who have been hiring illegals and paying them very little, and no punishment anticipated in the future.
If I want a cheap illegal live in housekeeper, why would I suddenly want to start paying her $7.35 an hour and overtime pay and paying social security taxes on her besides when I can just fire her and hire a new illegal who will do the job for $5 an hour paid in cash so no social security or FICA has to be paid.
Most are working now...wouldn't that make their transition to lawful status easier. If someone is working a meat packing plant and is illegal, wouldn't the employer welcome keeping a good trained worker and make their position legal and permanent?
There is no indication that 11 million people will be on the move on day one of signing of CIR into law.
But Americans need the jobs they are holding. What part of that aren't you getting? Americans can't be trained and be good workers? Who should be entitled to these jobs? Illegals or Americans? Even if legalized they won't be citizens and should not get job dibs above our own citizens.
But Americans need the jobs they are holding. What part of that aren't you getting? Americans can't be trained and be good workers? Who should be entitled to these jobs? Illegals or Americans? Even if legalized they won't be citizens and should not get job dibs above our own citizens.
I suspect that it's about half and half --- half of the illegals are committing felony document fraud and identity theft and are illegally taking jobs that Americans would like to do, but another half are working off the books, paying no taxes on their incomes.
The only way that half can keep those jobs would be for the liberals to devise a way to make it legal to hire employees as contractors to get around minimum wage and other labor laws --- like they're allowing them to do now.
This is also an amnesty for all those who illegally hire foreigners to get around the labor laws. It's just not clear yet if this Senate bill will make it legal for them to continue doing this. In that case, they may as well eliminate the minimum wage and other labor laws to make it legal for employers to keep their foreign employees -- and for Americans to compete for jobs.
Also Obama has promised the illegals "family reunification" so all 11-30 million illegals getting in on this amnesty can start bringing in family members who want to be here for all those great paying American jobs -- and they will also be legal and won't have to take the low paying hard work jobs.
For those, there will be more illegals brought in -- employers used to paying $5 an hour for crappy jobs aren't going to suddenly get legal -- for one there is no punishment for those employers who have been hiring illegals and paying them very little, and no punishment anticipated in the future.
If I want a cheap illegal live in housekeeper, why would I suddenly want to start paying her $7.35 an hour and overtime pay and paying social security taxes on her besides when I can just fire her and hire a new illegal who will do the job for $5 an hour paid in cash so no social security or FICA has to be paid.
Where do you find illegals willing to work for $5/hr? Illegals usually get about $8-12/hr, but they get paid by the job so there is incentive to work fast.
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