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Old 07-05-2013, 07:06 AM
 
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Blog: FBI requests for data on Americans up 1000% since 2009

Also in the news this week, Obama will illegally and unilaterally delay a key provision of Obamacare...Obama is an Imperial President more so than any president in my lifetime.
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Old 07-05-2013, 08:19 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Blog: FBI requests for data on Americans up 1000% since 2009

Also in the news this week, Obama will illegally and unilaterally delay a key provision of Obamacare...Obama is an Imperial President more so than any president in my lifetime.
And why does this surprise anyone? Obama and his denizens are attempting to put a legal facade on his actions which are illegal. Same as he always does.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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It was so much better when the Administration was doing it without getting judicial approval.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And ever so slowly we further decline.

I look to South American countries to see what we're going to turn into.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:47 AM
 
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I'm not buying into the Snowden as a villain or hero argument, but this paragraph alone makes me grateful for his revelations -

"Taken together, experts say, those revelations show the government has broadly interpreted the Patriot Act provision as enabling it to collect data not just on specific individuals, but on millions of Americans with no suspected terrorist connections. And it shows that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court accepted that broad interpretation of the law."

The United States has become too much of a security state since 9/11 with our rights being nibbled away at with increasing frequency. To maintain a healthy a viable democracy we need whistleblowers like Snowden. It's embassing to find out our government has been spying on it's citizens the same way the Chinese do, but at least the Chinese are upfront about it.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm not buying into the Snowden as a villain or hero argument, but this paragraph alone makes me grateful for his revelations -

"Taken together, experts say, those revelations show the government has broadly interpreted the Patriot Act provision as enabling it to collect data not just on specific individuals, but on millions of Americans with no suspected terrorist connections. And it shows that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court accepted that broad interpretation of the law."

The United States has become too much of a security state since 9/11 with our rights being nibbled away at with increasing frequency. To maintain a healthy a viable democracy we need whistleblowers like Snowden. It's embassing to find out our government has been spying on it's citizens the same way the Chinese do, but at least the Chinese are upfront about it.
Snowden is the third to try to tell us about the NSA.
He made headlines but all we see are governments trying to calm down the people into acceptance.
Voiced outrage, demands for hearings is dog and pony show tactics.
None have submitted legislation to change anything.

There's paranoia in government. Cyberwars is the next frontier and that is driving the paranoia.

We created Stuxnet and set it loose. You think we don't fear that it will be done to us ?
General Alexander said that the US must dominate the internet and that the US cannot react.
He also said any cyber attack on US entitles would be considered an act of war.
But it's ok for the US to cyberattack another country because.."oooooh..they have nuclear weapons".
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