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Old 07-09-2013, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Huh ... I normally disagree with everything you post, but I'm loving "austerity ghoul."
Of course you love it. What does it even mean?

This is your brain on liberalism.
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:39 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Exactly. They have to rid themselves of the Ayn Rand fanatics first though. They should have never got in bed with the tea party.


Do we really need two progressive parties?

People are PO'ed that they pick the opposite party, expecting different results, and get the same progressive cancer, they didn't know existed as the real culprit.
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Old 07-09-2013, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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GOP was much more centrist in the past than it is today. GOP only started shifting to the right after Reagan, and it's been going further to the right since then. There used to be a time when the GOP actually supported the entitlement programs we have, back in the good old days of the 1950s and 1960s


Back in the 1950s and 1960s, the federal debt was tiny fraction of what it is today, work was a worthwhile endeavor and entitlement programs weren't as much a way of life.

We've come a long way since then.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:26 PM
 
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The GOP has such bad candidates this time around, I think I may end up voting split ticket for a Democrat president in 2016. I don't want an austerity ghoul as president.
the DecRATS put up Obama, and you complain about the GOP. Romney was a sucess at virtually everything. Obama is one, huge, ongoing flop.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:37 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Marco Rubio will be the one on the ticket in 16' end of story.
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Or Jeb Bush.
I think it is wwwaaaaayyyyy too soon to predict who the GOP nominee will be 2016. In political terms that is lightyears from now.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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Anybody that votes for a Democrat or Republican in the next election is hopelessly deluded if they think things will be any different or any better if either of them is elected! Wake up Sheeple!
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Anybody that votes for a Democrat or Republican in the next election is hopelessly deluded if they think things will be any different or any better if either of them is elected! Wake up Sheeple!
I for one, would love to see a viable third party, but it's very unlikely.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:31 PM
 
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Back in the 1950s and 1960s, the federal debt was tiny fraction of what it is today, work was a worthwhile endeavor and entitlement programs weren't as much a way of life.

We've come a long way since then.
I don't care what the actual amount of debt was. What matters is the debt to GDP ratio. Yes, our debt was smaller back then, so was our GDP. Federal debt was far higher during WWII than it is today. Our federal debt today was just shy of 68% of GDP (in 2011). In World War II, the debt was 112.7% of GDP and we were creating entitlements left and right. We didn't crash and burn then and we aren't now. Japan is over 200% debt on their GDP, why are they still going? Stop obsessing yourself with public debt. It clearly does not matter as much as those gold pushers say it does. Besides, paying down the public debt too much can actually debase your economy. Government debt does not function the same way as household debt just like the government budget does not function the same as the kitchen table budget. You guys have got to stop confusing the two and thinking they are the same thing. They are not, never have been, and never will be
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Globalization is inevitable and good for the economy long term. We have to make sacrifices now and my generation, Boomers, will probably have paid the highest price when its all said and done. I dont mind taking a hit now so those who follow can have it better than I did
You're dreaming if you think the next generation will have it any better, it's just going to get worse. They will have to work til they drop dead, and the most they can hope for will be a trailer park, with a yard the size of a postage stamp.
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Old 07-10-2013, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Pa
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Anybody that votes for a Democrat or Republican in the next election is hopelessly deluded if they think things will be any different or any better if either of them is elected! Wake up Sheeple!
The hardliners can't help themselves. They will vote party line no matter what.
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