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Old 07-15-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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Just more professional victims looking to cash in on artificial prejudice.

As to dirtbags Obama and his perjurious sidekick Holder -- they will only pursue this if they see political gain. As there is no time limit to spring their DOJ Criminal Case, it's a good chance they'll hold off until just before the mid-term elections. Nothing like a contrived controversy to drum-up feigned outrage, and to motivate vacuous-minded Left-Wingers to head to the polls.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Upper Bucks County, PA.
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Martin didn't use 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 as a defense in the trial.
LOL, then what standard of justifiable use of force did Zimmerman claim?

012 is the general, "Use of force in defense of person" and covers standard self defense which is what this case was; "a person is justified in the use of deadly force . . . if . . . He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself . . .

013 is castle doctrine and its extension, the "stand your ground" statute which this case never was.

031 is use of force in defense of others.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Yes. The Martins would probably do better to hire someone to mete out a little "frontier justice" than try their case in Florida where the law protects racists who grab a gun and go out and harass black kids.
So, let me get this straight.

GZ follows TM through the community because this kid is walking casually through the subdivision, in the rain, staring into the windows of every house he passes.

GZ exercises poor/overzealous judgment, ignores police dispatcher, and leaves his vehicle. Meanwhile, he's lost sight of TM.

TM arrives out of nowhere and punches GZ in the nose (breaking it) for following him.

GZ falls to the ground.

TM straddles GZ, punching him, and further - continually bashes GZ's head into the concrete.

GZ in fear for his life, somehow is able to pull his gun and shoot TM.

So, TM - who threw the first punch, broke GZ's nose, bashes GZ's head into concrete - is the innocent?

And, GZ - who would have surely been killed - should serve 30 years on a manslaughter charge for defending himself?

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What gave Travon the right to punch GZ?
What gave Travon the right to bash GZ's head into the ground?

At no time was GZ physically aggressive toward GM.

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Yes, GZ exhibited poor judgment in leaving his vehicle. But, that is all he did.

TM is the real killer, here. And would surely have been if GZ hadn't killed him first. I'd say it's a darn good thing GZ had his gun.

Otherwise, it would be Travon charged and convicted for 2nd degree murder.

Generally, people die as they lived. I would call this frontier justice.

We'll see how GZ's life unfolds going forward.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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LOL, then what standard of justifiable use of force did Zimmerman claim?
Zimmerman didn't claim anything. It was up to the state to prove their charges of 2nd degree murder or manslaughter
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:29 PM
 
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Bad when a family pimps their dead child when he screwed up.

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Old 07-15-2013, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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What gave Travon the right to punch GZ?
What gave Travon the right to bash GZ's head into the ground?

At no time was GZ physically aggressive toward GM.
That is Zimmerman's claim. There is no witness as to who 'started' the final confrontation. Zimmerman walks because that can't be established.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Bad when a family pimps their dead child when he screwed up.
They got $8.50 just for lost future earnings.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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I wonder if the HOA made it contingent on a successful prosecution of Zimmerman otherwise they need to get a better lawyer... and besides that, 1 million? I hope they have insurance to cover it... even then the homeowners will have a hefty increase in their HOA dues for higher premiums...
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:36 PM
 
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What a joke. How do they get rich off this. Their son assaulted someone so now they are supposed to profit from it? He died because of his own actions
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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That is Zimmerman's claim. There is no witness as to who 'started' the final confrontation. Zimmerman walks because that can't be established.
Zimmerman didn't walk because of that.

Who threw the first punch is not relevant to the decision because that punch did not kill or come even close to killing.

Who was bashing whose head into the concrete is relevant and what decided the jury.
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