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Old 07-24-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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youve made the inference that poor minorities are going to ruin white neighborhoods if they are allowed to move in next to them, stating that these white neighborhoods should have all the perks to themselves, and nobody else should get any of them.

it sounds like in your opinion that the lower the income of a person, the lower quality of the person.
Well they ruined the ones they're living in now or why else does the government want to put them where the middle class lives?

The middle class pays to live where it lives, the poor will live free but where the government puts them. Why should anyone work hard for a living when the government makes sure the welfare slackers have it better?
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:16 AM
 
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And this is not about race at all because middle class blacks and latinos already can buy or rent where they wish and can afford, this is to make sure the welfare queens and their boyfriends can live in nice suburbs and neighborhoods they will trash, just like they've trashed the neighborhoods they live in now.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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looks interesting from what ive read.

seems like only whites who want to live in there gated fortresses locked away from the world are against this.

not going to be like that anymore.
Where in the constitution is the power for the federal government to do this given?
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Methinks there are other policy goals that could be accomplished via the "disparate impact" principle.

For example, ending the war on drugs, since the "disparate impact" burden negatively affects nonwhites more than whites.

Or ending affirmative action for white women, since white women getting AA hurts nonwhites.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Where in the constitution is the power for the federal government to do this given?
Most likely they'll rely on the Commerce Clause for justification, thanks to the overexpansive interpretation of the Commerce Clause that has prevailed ever since Wickard v. Filburn and which was reinforced by Gonzales v. Raich. Nowadays the feds can use the Commerce Clause to justify virtually any action and any power.

Another reason why Gonzales (and Wickard) should be overturned by constitutional amendment.
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:39 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I say build HUD homes and apartments in the Hamptons. Where ever a politician lives, the neighbor must be a poor person. the electric line, water, and cable lines must be connected to the politician's house so they pay the bills for these poor folks. even build HUD on the white house lawn. this Is only "fair"
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Old 07-24-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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I say build HUD homes and apartments in the Hamptons. Where ever a politician lives, the neighbor must be a poor person. the electric line, water, and cable lines must be connected to the politician's house so they pay the bills for these poor folks. even build HUD on the white house lawn. this Is only "fair"
Those $*#s... nothings changed in the course of mankind but tech..
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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Sounds great, instead of just certain areas being crappy with high crime, now all the areas will be crappy with high crime.

People can move where ever they want, just hav to be able to afford the payment, welcome to America.

Except that zoning is used to cripple the market and the supply, thereby artificially raising prices. When did that become American?
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Except that zoning is used to cripple the market and the supply, thereby artificially raising prices. When did that become American?
You realize places with highly restricted zoning, Nimbyism and enviomentalist that stop growth are generally liberal right?
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:33 AM
 
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Crime and poverty go hand in hand. So moving poor people to middle class areas will increase the crime in the neighborhoods. I know this because I grew up in a city that filled empty homes during the housing downturn with section 8 residents from Oakland and Richmond. They brought all the crime and problems with them. Now crime in my childhood city has drastically risen and the middle class is leaving. When the middle class (taxpayers) leave the city is stuck with a bunch of section 8 and low income housing, a high crime rate and no one to fund the schools and police.

I have no problems with minorities moving anywhere, they just need to be able to afford the payment.

??? Moving me to a middle class neighborhood will have zero effect on crime, on drugs, on gangs, and all that bad stuff.
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