Congressional Republicans Try For The 40th Time To Repeal The Affordable Care Act (Reagan, insurance)

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by nightleopard654

Seriously? Are they still on that? What a waste of time.
BS like this is why there was a sequester last January. These conservatives absolutely refuse to lean across the aisle. They want to keep on bitching about the Affordable Care Act instead of trying to reach a compromise when it comes to the budget. And if they don't get their way, they act like a bunch of big babies and cry about how we live in such a cruel world where not everybody gets their way.
The Affordable Care Act is perfectly constitutional and therefore it'll never be repealed no matter how many times they try to take it down. If the conservatives would just let it go and instead use their time to work on a budget compromise, then President Obama's excellent work would no longer be inhibited and the country would be recovering much more quickly.

Funny, the Dems passed no budget for years.....as required by Law for them to do so.

"Round 'em up!".

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

Many, if not most right wingers are racist, though have been the ones in the past whom have passed amnesty which is pretty funny. Anyhow, can you show me where the democrats have tried dozens, let alone 40 times to pass a bill that has absolutely no chance of getting through?

Because you say so!?!

[bluesjuke]

Originally Posted by Wapasha

IMO, they have just been pandering to voters with these symbolic votes, because once Reid ignores them, they drop the issue and stare at their own belly buttons. If they were serious they would be on this repeal 24/7, pushing for it's repeal and making their case before the people.

Well 40 votes is heading towards 24/7 I would say.
If you listen there are those that are talking to the People.


If you recall the People's voice, the majority of them in this country, was totally ignored and rejected in the passing of this bad Law.

[Ringo1]

Originally Posted by mohawkx

Hah! That's like saying your office manager spent the entire work day in the bathroom with Montezuma's Revenge and she earned her pay because she was on salary.

With the House of Representatives and their right wing conservatives, they are becoming addicted to a legislative circle-jerk. When the do it 40 times in quick succession, it becomes perverted. It's becoming a rite of passage for freshmen congress critters.

Seriously. Every minute they waste on that - it does cost us money.

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

majority of americans don't want obamacare, or think its a bad idea


so the real question is why wont the fascist liberal REPRESENTIVES listen to the PEOPLE

Obama got reelected by a majority and obamacare was certainly part of that, no?

[michiganmoon]

Originally Posted by Iamme73

The inverse of Limbaugh? LOL

Again, anyone can read the ideas of conservatives. Anyone can see the huge massive government programs they support that overwhelming help the rich and elderly white people.

If you are interested in say equal pay in the workplace for women, what is the conservative iniative to deal with that issue?

If you are interested in wage inequality and low wage workers, tell me what is the conservative iniative to deal with that issue?

If you care about climate change,

If you care about racial discrimination in employment, housing, the criminal justice system, please tell what is the conservative iniative to address those issues.

If you care about homosexual marriage,

If you care about the issues facing urban America and big cities,

If you care about access to healthcare, or access to childcare,

I could go on, conservatives don't care about any of those issues.

You are.

You use the same demonizing and low IQ logic to paint a picture of how conservatives think. What you do is no different than Limbaugh saying that liberals want people in poverty, want everyone on the government dole to grow government. The only thing is that you are too blind to look in the mirror or legitimately put yourself in someone else's shoes if you disagree with them. I hope you grow up and stop playing Miss Cleo.

[TempesT68]

Originally Posted by bluesjuke

Well 40 votes is heading towards 24/7 I would say.
If you listen there are those that are talking to the People.


If you recall the People's voice, the majority of them in this country, was totally ignored and rejected in the passing of this bad Law.

False

"48 percent said “Congress should keep the program to expand coverage because it’s important to reduce the number of Americans without health insurance,” while 42 percent said “Congress should repeal the program to expand coverage because the government can’t afford it at a time of large budget deficits.”

Poll: Most Americans Don?t Want Congress to Repeal Obamacare - NationalJournal.com

[mohawkx]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

False

"48 percent said “Congress should keep the program to expand coverage because it’s important to reduce the number of Americans without health insurance,” while 42 percent said “Congress should repeal the program to expand coverage because the government can’t afford it at a time of large budget deficits.”

Poll: Most Americans Don?t Want Congress to Repeal Obamacare - NationalJournal.com

There is a sizable percentage of people who dislike Obamacare not because it's "socialism" but because it didn't go far enough towards a Universal Healthcare System. Right wing conservatives use these percentages to pad their numbers when demonstrating public dissatisfaction.

[trlhiker]

Originally Posted by bluesjuke

What is wrong with those that passed this colossal mess in the first place?


Over 70% of people screamed "NO!" but they did their backroom deals & bribes and went ahead with it anyway in spite of the People's will.

Really? Now its up to 70%. Can you show proof of those numbers?

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

Many, if not most right wingers are racist, though have been the ones in the past whom have passed amnesty which is pretty funny. Anyhow, can you show me where the democrats have tried dozens, let alone 40 times to pass a bill that has absolutely no chance of getting through?

hmmm...apparently you are incapable of telling the truth with your trolling/flaming threads


all amnesties....have been DEMOCRAT amnesties


who authored 8 of the 8 amnesties tried and had 7 passed.......TED KENNEDY

there have been 8 amnesty bills, 7 PASSED, since 1965....ALL authored by Ted Kennedy

In 1986 Senator Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’

Ronald Reagan was opposed to illegal immigration and amnesty. In fact, if you do a little research you will find that stopping illegal immigration was part of the Republican National Committee’s platform back then and Ronald Reagab ran on that platform.

The 1986 Immigration Reform Act that rewarded illegal aliens with amnesty was known as the Simpson-Massoli bill of 1986. When first drafted, the bill was suppose to make it a criminal offense for aliens who were not authorized to work in the United States a federal criminal act and that it would be a federal crime for employers to hire illegal aliens.

Here's what happened, the Democrats in Congress refused to sign on this bill unless the 1.5 million illegal aliens already thought to be in the country illegally and would qualify for amnesty were rewarded amnesty. (reason being, if these illegal’s were to become U.S. citizens, guess what party they would most likely vote for ? )

So the amnesty part was added on to the bill other wise the Democrats wouldn't sign on. And to muffle the out cry, the American people were told that this amnesty was a one time thing and would never be repeated again.

Well the bill passed both houses of Congress and President Reagan signed the bill. In the inner circles of the administration, Ronald Reagan was to have said he may have made a mistake by signing the bill.
Guess what ?, it wasn't 1.5 million illegal aliens who would have qualified for amnesty. It turns out that over 3 million were rewarded with amnesty, mostly because of the fraud that took place during the amnesty process. Phony rent receipts, phony pay check stubs, liberal judges expunging criminal records of illegal aliens!!!

And after the bill became law, you had Teddy Kennedy watering down the enforcement part of the bill that had to do with enforcing and prosecuting employers who hired illegal aliens.

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Here is Ted Kennedy commenting on the 1965 immigration bill,Quote
“The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission.” End of Quote.

In 1994, Ted Kennedy’s Section 245(i) Amnesty gave legal residence and jobs to 578,000 illegal aliens. It was a temporary rolling amnesty primarily for extended family members of immigrants who instead of waiting in line, come on to the country illegally.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy’s extension of the Section 245(i) rolling amnesty was followed by an increasing flow of illegal immigration.

In 1997, Ted Kennedy also won an amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America. Illegal immigration sped up some more.

In 1998, Ted Kennedy won an amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy got the so-called Late Amnesty, legalizing another 400,000 illegal aliens who claimed that they missed out on Kennedy’s 1986 amnesty.

In 2000, Ted Kennedy also won the LIFE Act Amnesty for an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. It was another reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty...an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens. Illegal immigration accelerated.

[TempesT68]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

all amnesties....have been DEMOCRAT amnesties

Reagan passing amnesty, W supporting amnesty and McCain trying to pass an amnesty bill are all democrats? Who knew?